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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

And of all people to demonize, Steve Wozniak?!!

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Lots of timid, humorless folks having trouble imagining not being a sheep and always coloring inside the lines. I for one wish there were more real people around, living life for liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Like we were intended to live.

I for one wish there were fewer people around chiding others with tired platitudes for not living their day-to-day lives like someone with $100m in their pocket.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

This is an objective _abuse_ of authority/power by an ultrawealthy, tone-deaf "hacker", who frankly didn't seem to remember any of his engineering skills when he spoke at my university ten years ago.

Please tell me you see that. Or at least, are not personally ultrawealthy yourself.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

yes, conformity and fear of authority is strange here. no more hackers, just business ppl.

Yes why should people fear authority? It’s not like there is a history of corruption and brutality in the police department or five policemen beating a man to death in Memphis within the last week.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

Yeah, my reaction was -- after he read you your miranda rights, why were you even talking to him without a lawyer? But after thinking about it more -- and I'm in my mid-40s -- I think what it also reminds us of is that law enforcement actually used to be a lot more reasonable -- to be clear, this may probably only apply to white people who appear as if they are not poor. But I think maybe the police (whether local or…

> think what it also reminds us of is that law enforcement actually used to be a lot more reasonable

No, it just use to be a lot less recorded…

And no minority with a sense of history would say that police have ever been “reasonable”

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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post #169
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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To be fair, this is sort of a mixture of white privilege and changing times as well. I have a much less cool version of a situation where I was pulled over a few years back by state highway patrol at night. Apparently after I had stopped for gas I forgot to flick my lights on and was driving with them off. I didn’t notice because the highway section I was on had lots of lights along it and I have pretty good vision.…

That's not an example of "white privilege". It has neither do with being white nor privilege and everything to do with culture.

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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Yeah, my reaction was -- after he read you your miranda rights, why were you even talking to him without a lawyer? But after thinking about it more -- and I'm in my mid-40s -- I think what it also reminds us of is that law enforcement actually used to be a lot more reasonable -- to be clear, this may probably only apply to white people who appear as if they are not poor. But I think maybe the police (whether local or…

> think what it also reminds us of is that law enforcement actually used to be a lot more reasonable No, it just use to be a lot less recorded… And no minority with a sense of history would say that police have ever been “reasonable”

So in my comment that was only like five sentances, one of them was "to be clear, this may probably only apply to white people who appear as if they are not poor", right?

I'm curious if you are old enough to remember the 80s, although I'm not going to bet any precious precious donuts about it.

How state violence and repression was in the 80s isn't good enough, agreed. But things actually do change, get better and worse in different dimensions. If we insist that things have always been exactly as they are, then it seems fatalistic, they can't possibly change, this is the way it's always been and always will be. But things do change. If they were better in some ways 30 years ago, then this isn't inevitable.

Woz was a prankster, including against those in authority. Look up some of the pranks the MIT "hackers" pulled back in the day. Today, some of them would probably get you arrested on domestic terrorism charges. This is not an improvement, even if it's true that the police of course have always been brutal in some times and places, especially depending on social position of the victims. But nobody (I hope) is looking for equality of brutal discipline, equally oppressive to all.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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It’s only fake if it’s imitating an ID issued by some other organization.

If I print a student ID issued by a non-existant university, is it a fake ID?

Probably. Certainly using one to gain student discount or like is fraud.
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