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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

incone123 wrote: post #116
michaelt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My bank tells me it's to help protect vulnerable customers - for example, if you want £2000 cash to pay some builders, they'll ask whether the builders have started work yet. Although who knows if that's the whole reason?

That's true for large amounts and there are a lot of scams so it makes sense. But this is around small denominations - I was only getting a few hundred GBP in £5s for a festival.

There are plenty of people around who would stab you, never mind cheat you, for a few hundred pounds.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by CalRobert »

dereg wrote: post #169
dist1ll wrote: post #36

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Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

I think things like this were more likely to get laughed off or at most a scolding from a judge back then, as opposed to some BS terrorism-related charge, back in the day. I think back to what I did in high school with model rocket engines and the like and I'd probably be convicted of something now.

Standard caveat of being a middle class white dude makes this easier.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by alephnerd »

fsloth wrote: post #131
NikolaNovak wrote: post #93

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In most western marriages, people agree to take care of each other, frequently explicitly as part of their ceremony. Source: attended 100+ weddings as a photographer.

Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids. And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that…

You guys only value independence for Western Europeans.

Alligevel vedtager I en "Ghettopakke", der lovligt legaliserede at splitte migrantfamilier fra hinanden. I er lige så dårlige som resten af andre hvide mennesker, jeg har mødt.

[0] - https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/4895/Denmark:-Ghetto-P...

[1] - https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2020/10/un-human-rig...

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by andrepd »

dereg wrote: post #169
dist1ll wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority. People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and…

Well to play devil's advocate, handing a police officer a joke ID is just a silly bit of fun, not really a "challenge to the status quo".

Amusing story tho.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

ipaddr wrote: post #210
sandworm101 wrote: post #179

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That was before we knew that real people suffer after pulling similar stunts. We all know of someone who did something stupid and has faced a lifetime of consiquence. Nobody dares put a fake bomb in a school locker (Woz did that) or give false documents to police for fun. Such things are no longer jokes. They screw up entire lives. I used to ride fast motorcycles. I know people who ran from the police for fun. Better…

"Better camera tech in recent years means nobody gets away with that anymore." Because police rely on technology committing a crime without your cellphone means you most likely will not get caught. We live in an age where wearing masks is acceptable. Where people let you steal from stores and where crime is ignored unless it's on twitter. You can get away with so much more today.

I don't know about how ubiquitous cameras are in NYC, but in China you will absolutely get caught by cameras, and no, a mask will not help you.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by CalRobert »

OJFord wrote: post #113
dsomers wrote: post #82

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Exactly this. As late as the 2001 I could cross into the US from Canada with as little as my birth certificate, which I often did. That was just a cotton blended paper with tattered edges with some writing, and the crest of my province printed on it. There wasn’t even a photo on it! It was closer to writing, ‘I’m daniel plz let me in’ on a napkin, than it is to my passport of today with its photo, barcode, and RFID c…

As little as a birth certificate? You can still cross EU borders with just a driving licence, or government issued ID where they have them. (In practice the vast majority using planes and boats at least probably do take a passport, I always did from the UK, but in theory you don't need one, so if you weren't planning to go elsewhere you wouldn't even need to get a passport.)

You can cross schengen borders with nothing.

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Post by abledon »

thinkyfish wrote: post #197
sandworm101 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was before we knew that real people suffer after pulling similar stunts. We all know of someone who did something stupid and has faced a lifetime of consiquence. Nobody dares put a fake bomb in a school locker (Woz did that) or give false documents to police for fun. Such things are no longer jokes. They screw up entire lives. I used to ride fast motorcycles. I know people who ran from the police for fun. Better…

"Such things are no longer jokes. They screw up entire lives." But should they screw up lives? Why should we put up with authorities that can't take a joke. This is the foundation of the culture of defiance that hacking was all about expressing.

> But should they screw up lives? Why should we put up with authorities that can't take a joke.

They key concept here is 'trickery', and how 'tricked' someone is on a spectrum. Society trusts our authorities to give their best efforts to keep our daily actions within the realm of 'the law'.

There is a spectrum of what one considers a 'joke'. If you tell an authority a dad joke, when they ask you a serious question, that is a fine place on the spectrum to joke with authorities. If you are giving them fake IDs to _trick_ them (and thus, trick society at large, who have delegated power to the authorities by vote etc...), that is not a good thing, to trick others you are living with, at the far end of the 'joke/trickery' spectrum.

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

Tade0 wrote: post #138
jesprenj wrote: post #25

Can one buy uncut sheets of euro banknotes?

Haven't heard of any, but when it was first introduced, the Euro was fairly easy to copy. There was a man in Italy nicknamed il Professore who was notorious for producing them in bulk while not being particularly conspicuous about it. According to an anecdote from one of his family members when a cashier tried to confirm whether the 20€ banknote he gave her was legitimate he said "lady, it costs me 18€ to make one of…

Could that be the inspiration of "the professor" in Netflix's "Money heist"?
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