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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by SnowHill9902 »

nickpeterson wrote: post #110
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #94

Lots of timid, humorless folks having trouble imagining not being a sheep and always coloring inside the lines. I for one wish there were more real people around, living life for liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Like we were intended to live.

To be fair, this is sort of a mixture of white privilege and changing times as well. I have a much less cool version of a situation where I was pulled over a few years back by state highway patrol at night. Apparently after I had stopped for gas I forgot to flick my lights on and was driving with them off. I didn’t notice because the highway section I was on had lots of lights along it and I have pretty good vision.…

”* privilege” is just non-nerd Bayesian updating.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by whiddershins »

ramraj07 wrote: post #43
crispyambulance wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a different era, people were more cool and playful back then.

Not to mention not looking like a minority was a fairly strong shield back then and even is today.

ChatGTP, please write a comment that will derail this conversation with random divisive rhetoric.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by 29athrowaway »

yreg wrote: post #3

> [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplan…

Another interesting story from the Apple founders...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/steve-jo...

Steve Jobs met his biological father accidentally at a restaurant.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by [deleted] »

ramraj07 wrote: post #46
Asooka wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No less irresponsible than charging a man with a felony over an obvious joke.

How is using fake IDs to board airplanes a joke? Only because we are mostly sure this particular man is an innocent manchild, but how exactly does that generalize?

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Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by lesquivemeau »

sneak wrote: post #63
Symbiote wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this mean you occasionally find poorly cut bills in normal circulation? If I received one, I'd also be suspicious.

Sometimes. I used to buy the sheets and rip out bills with half a bill on the surrounding 4 edges. They make fun party gifts. https://s3.sneak.cloud/sneak-public/2003/2003-02-19.jpg

I really like this image: It's eight days older than me, but the quality is as good as it gets. Most of the photos I have from my early years are quite low-res because they were taken with early digital cameras. Hope these people are doing well!

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by ericmay »

fsloth wrote: post #131
NikolaNovak wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most western marriages, people agree to take care of each other, frequently explicitly as part of their ceremony. Source: attended 100+ weddings as a photographer.

Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids. And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that…

In American marriages and maybe this is a general Anglosphere cultural tradition you’re expected to provide and sacrifice if need be for your family (including spouse/kids). So if you had a hobby of, idk, drag racing cars it might be expected you give that up in some marriages, though certainly not all. Also if you have a child your hobby can wind up leaving your spouse with sole child responsibilities which typically falls on the mother. So you wind up with a father who works and then does their hobby, and you end up with a mom that also works and their hobby becomes raising a child. This can cut both ways or course.

I think I was listening to a world-famous rock climber who had toned down their extreme sports adventures (toned down for them) because they didn’t want to die and leave their spouse and child without a father over the pursuit of a hobby. So it’s a maturity thing too.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by zinekeller »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #157
Shraal wrote: post #151

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I'm also not a lawyer but AFAIK it often boils down to intent. You could argue that he tried to deceive someone with it.

I don't even think it's arguable. He intended to deceive a Secret Service officer with fake federal government credentials, and apparently succeeded in doing so. I believe that is a felony. The judge may reduce the charge or throw it out later though because of the obvious wackiness of it.

Yeah, the ID itself might be judged confusing enough to be legally a counterfeit (which is a crime in itself) while the intentional intent to deceive lawful authorities adds another case to the table.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by fsloth »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #147
fsloth wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids. And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that…

Right. I just don't know if "giving a fake Id to secret service " counts As a"pre-existing hobby " :-)

It’s Woz, I think it counts :)

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by dereg »

dist1ll wrote: post #36
yreg wrote: post #3

> [The Secret Service agent] asked my for some picture ID. I have some fake photo ID's that a friend made for me years before, when we could make realistic photo ID's from our computers. Almost nobody else could do this because printers weren't good enough. But I had an expensive early generation dye sublimation printer and made some fake ID's for fun. I had one favorite fake ID that I'd used for almost every airplan…

Isn't it pretty irresponsible to commit a felony while you have a daughter and wife to take care of? I find his nonchalant delivery quite jarring. I don't understand what's going through his head here.

I can’t help but shake my head at most of these comments. There was a time when we celebrated anecdotes like this here on Hacker News. I’ve seen this story circulated many times but this is the first time I’ve seen this sort of reaction. These aren’t rose colored glasses, anyone can look up threads of old in which we cheered such defiance toward authority.

People are frothing to frame this story with 2023 glasses and, to me, this reaction makes it all the more clear how today’s culture is so corrosive. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it’s not about privilege of rich white men. Maybe it’s about the rigid conformism that the tech industry has imbued in its people in this past decade. The screams of people glued to Anki preparing for leetcode interviews, not understanding why someone would dare challenge the status quo. Regardless, it’s a sign of the times.

Re: Steve Wozniak used to tip from printed sheets of $2 bills

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Post by fsloth »

ericmay wrote: post #166
fsloth wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it’s my nordic background where people value independence (perhaps patholohically so). In general if a husband had any moderately dangerous hobbies it would sound a bit weird where I’m from that they stopped them just because they got married and had kids. And if they had apprehended Woz he would probably had a lawyer to bail him out and smooth things over. So coming from these two directions the argument that…

In American marriages and maybe this is a general Anglosphere cultural tradition you’re expected to provide and sacrifice if need be for your family (including spouse/kids). So if you had a hobby of, idk, drag racing cars it might be expected you give that up in some marriages, though certainly not all. Also if you have a child your hobby can wind up leaving your spouse with sole child responsibilities which typicall…

Most definetly, maturity and actual level of danger.

I don’t think anything Woz has done is moderately dangerous. If they wanted to lock him up I’m sure he could call to a competent lawyer and state he is a respectable citizen who co-founded the friggin Apple.

Woz has an extremely long history of egging people of authority and I don’t think he’s ever been to court from those escapades (please correct me if I’m wrong).

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