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Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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Reminds me of this tweet by Derek Thompson (writer at The Atlantic ): In 2022, we: - Reversed organ death in pigs - Made the first embryo from stem cells - Made a pan-influenza vaccine - Saw the beginning of time - Got best-ever results from cancer & obesity therapy trials - Maybe cracked the case of multiple sclerosis From: https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1600864770751860737 ( https://archive.is/pi95L )

Yeah and we developed the most efficient graphene nanotube batteries that never degrade!! Sorry, I'm not buying it anymore. More than likely, none of that is going to help me or anyone I know from struggling just a little more each year.

I hear what you're saying. Things are improving, but what share do I have in it?

Another angle is if I struggle and work hard, what rewards accrue to others, and what do I get in return? The ROI on effort seems to be dwindling cause fakes are crowding out the real hard workers. And the buyers (ie wealthy investors) cant seem to tell the difference between expertise and bald faced lies. (I blame social media and rise of influencers for this, a bunch of fancy graphics and a iphone and now you know the 1 real secret the life long scientists have been holding back to our fatloss/clear pores/million dollar a month business).. Then again it was the missteps of institutions that even gave influencers their chance (a little lack of integrity ruins it for all)

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I think you're way off base. It's called rosy retrospection, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection . As you already mentioned in your comments, you're judging the past disproportionately more positive that the present. If you really want to know if everything is declining, try measure it everyday for the next five years. For example, every day, rate your personal well being, track how (un)happy you are wit…

Do you have some data that says this is off base besides some general Wikipedia concept? The OP reported direct observations.

Direct observations? It seemed like anecdotes to me! Crime can certainly increase in some areas but I think overall we are down from decades ago

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Right but that’s a non-answer because norms change over time and place and that can only happen if people are allowed to change them over time and place. All you’re saying is that it’s subjective in a clouded way. At best you’re basically being left behind the cultural norm and probably should catch up.

I think we ought to distinguish between the case where the person has thought through their decision to wear pajamas in public and is doing it as an attempt to challenge existing norms, versus the case where they didn't even give it a thought. Because if that's what they're doing, then I'm 100% with you. Hanging onto existing norms is just opting out of the conversation about what the norms should be. I suspect, thou…

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A lot of this is related to inequality, value of labour detaching from wealth, and the increasing unaffordability of life. The material conditions of regular people are continuously getting worse as more and more of their income is stripped away by rent seeking oligopolies, mainly increasing housing costs but depending on your jurisdiction all sorts of other costs (eg. cable and mobile phone costs an issue in some pl…

> A lot of this is related to inequality, value of labour detaching from wealth, and the increasing unaffordability of life. Inequality is declining by every measurable metric in the United States. Edit: To answer the folk naysaying with their ten second Google searches, the income inequality rate has declined between 2007 and 2019(1), helped by a strong wage recovery in the late 2010s. The share of wealth held by th…

Over what period of time? Since 1980 there is a clear and dramatic increase in the the concentration of wealth. The pandemic and related problems may have stalled that trend for a time.

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I disagree everything is declining. A lot of things are working really well these days, but there are places worth improving. My thoughts here somewhat shaped by living abroad a few years and learning to better appreciate US along with reading favorite blogs like Noahpinion

It’s hard to forget a few factors involving news in the USA. It’s the 3rd largest country and has substantially more free press than the first 2 populated countries (one of which has no free press and the other is 150 out of 180 on the freedom scale). Also police generally acknowledging things happen. So the big picture stories here tend to blow up around the entire world but they almost never ever directly affect us. Other countries seem like Utopia or something just due to not appearing in the news as often due to their smaller populations. I believe this is a large part of what fuels “life in USA is on the decline!” topic.

Regarding the police: I reported my car stolen about 2 weeks back. The police found it and got it back to me in an hour after I called. Yeah, the tech helped them, but I wouldn’t call that not giving a shit. Their help in my time of need helped me appreciate their response times.

Economically, North America is still fairly abundant in resources. Canada and US jointly get to enjoy these due to free trade policies. And much of the confident has policies preventing resources from just being stripped off of or out of the earth as quickly as possible. We could be entirely fuel independent if we had more refineries. This is an economic advantage few parts of the world can enjoy.

Religiously, becoming a secular county has been positive for all kinds of equality. I say this as somebody raised in church!

Guns: the bipartisan gun safety policies coming out the past two years are exciting. I see news about red flag laws being applied (even in like Florida?). It required liberals to dial down the “take all the guns” and it required conservative to dial down the “guns at any cost”. I hope both parties can make more progress on these lines and 10-20 years down the road we can look back and say things have really improved

Sure, there are situations that need some work:

* water availability. Not looking so great in the west! But we can afford to build enough desalination to get California off the Colorado river if we wanted to. Everybody is so scared to build these plants we can’t really access economies of scale for them.

* street people - homelessness is a poor word for what’s going on in cities. People down on their luck who lose their homes can get back on their feet many times. The people who are occupying the streets of cities are the ones who have traditionally been housed in asylums, which closed to due public frustrations of care quality. Society should have worked on making those more ethical and improved patient care instead of removing them. Newsom’s forced care law might actually lead to asylums coming back?

* birth rates - maybe one day the GOP will wake up and realize their electorate is declining due to this and decide to make a 180 about government funded childcare support. Tax credits aren’t enough anymore.

* housing - it seems to me like a lot of people live alone which pushes up rents. Roommate tax credits seem worth exploring.

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> Anyone else have other examples? Elected president who is so crass and generally offensive he wouldn't have gotten close to being elected 50 years ago. Elected president who is showing clear signs of age related cognitive decline (so they say) but continues to occupy the office. Elected presidents with criminal behaviour that is far worse than what previous presidents were impeached or resigned for. Mental illness,…

A European nation casually invading another European nation, something we thought was now unthinkable not too long ago.

Are you joking? Europe's history is full of this

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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I don't know your age but I'm going to guess 30+. This is just happens when you get old. When you were younger you probably noticed that all the older people you knew pined for some earlier time (say the 1970s or 1950s). And you probably thought they were being silly. Well, now you've become one of those people. The fact is the world always seems better when you are younger, not because the world necessarily better,…

I'm 21 and I think everything's going to shit as well... is it doomerism or reality? Politicians appear increasingly corrupt and selfish. Geopolitics are becoming less stable. Innovation is coming to a standstill. The average person just wants a decent job, a nice place to live, and maybe a family. All of these are becoming more and more difficult to achieve. Is it any wonder kids are checking out of life en masse?

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> People are noisy as fuck and dont seem to give a shit. Seems like every night there's someone with loud as exhaust on "sportish" car ripping around the neihborhood. For months this guy would start up his loud car at 7am and no one care when I complained. > Police seem to not give a shit anymore. I've noticed what seems to be total lawlessness going on in my world. Folks stealing shit. People driving absurdly danger…

>being a grown-ass adult in pajamas out in public I'm with you about all the other things but people wearing whatever clothes they want to affects you in literally no way shape or form.

This; I’ll take other people in pajamas that doesn’t offend me one bit vs stupid loud exhaust (especially on non-performance vehicles and doubly so when they floor it in neighborhoods) every time. The latter serves no purpose other than annoying many many people around you, and plenty of trucks in particular do it explicitly for the intimidation / “manliness” factor. In addition to polluting a ton more and literally degrading the air we have to breathe when you remove the catalytic converter (which isn’t even legal in many places) it’s just a giant asshole move.

The good thing is that sound cameras with automated ticketing are already here, and I cannot wait until we get them in the Bay Area. https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a39906304/californi...

Re: Ask HN: Why Is Everything Declining?

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>the water is poison Putting aside the tons of pollution in lakes and oceans, what strikes me the most now is the abject failure and neglect in cities like Jackson, Mississippi and Flint, Michigan. How are people so powerless, governments so weakened, and politicians so detestable that something as basic as clean drinking water in cities is no longer functioning?

Clean drinking water in cities isn't the default state of affairs. We're all used to it, but we would do well to remember the open sewers and water carrying from wells and drinking from lakes, streams and rivers that have prevailed in human history.

Formerly, we wouldn't live in a desert if there wasn't any water. So we drilled deeper wells where the heavy metals are. We also put a lot of heavy metals into watersheds at the surface. As the watershed levels are dropping from drought or heavy draw, that becomes more of an issue.

Water is heavy and expensive to transport, treat and distribute. I don't think it's a simple problem to solve. It's a political issue to be sure, but it wouldn't be a political issue if it wasn't also an extremely difficult logistical issue at its core.

In the long run, it would probably be better for people to live where clean drinking water is readily and easily available. To be clear, that doesn't mean trucking in, treating and desalinization, it means people moving to areas with more rainfall.

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