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Florida teachers could face felony for books in classroom not approved by state

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Re: Florida teachers could face felony for books in classroom not approved by state

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I love how ~10 years ago, the left was frequently accused of having a victim mentality. Seems like the right enjoys believing they're perpetual victims these days.

The left still has a victim mentality. DARVO more like. Deny, accuse, reverse victim and offender.

"This isn't happening."

"It's a good thing it's happening."

Re: Florida teachers could face felony for books in classroom not approved by state

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Modern education seems pretty geared towards training for: following a strict schedule, having a boss, doing work that appears useless, etc.

Can’t speak for all regions. My Canadian public school experience was quite different.

Does Canada have independent school district funding concept?

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You're casting the desire for public schools to not make available a book with illustrations of two children engaged in anal sex with a dildo as "Republicans playing the victim".

That’s is not what’s going on here. And that hasn’t been happening.

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Re: Florida teachers could face felony for books in classroom not approved by state

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You're casting the desire for public schools to not make available a book with illustrations of two children engaged in anal sex with a dildo as "Republicans playing the victim".

I'm sorry, this is simply egregious. Please provide any evidence at all of your disgusting claims.

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Re: Florida teachers could face felony for books in classroom not approved by state

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While concerning, I think I'd need to know more before I go into outrage mode. This seems to be about grades 3 and lower. What kind of materials would really be both (a) prosecutable under this statute and (b) not reasonably a crime to present to 7 year olds? My guess is teachers are worried about "two dads/moms" kind of kids books or something? Is it realistic that such things would be prosecuted as felonies?

In Florida, a state where the legislature has decided to do everything that they can to make it illegal to be anywhere on the lgbt spectrum?

Very high.

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The race one seems pretty obvious though? It's just compounding interest and that's been taught forever, and as part of math classes on exponents It's not an extreme ideology to realize that the people who bought houses during redlining are much much wealthier now as a result. Hell, if most of most Americans wealth is owning their house, redlining is gonna be the most influential thing to wealth inequality between pe…

There's a difference between teaching about Jim Crow laws - which we absolutely should - and teaching ideological notions that cast white people as categorical racists and black people as categorical victims. Or teaching that white conquest of the North America is somehow an egregious reflection on white people, while omitting or downplaying Native Americans' tendencies for brutal tribalism amongst themselves. Human history is one of violence and conquest, between individuals, tribes, and nations.

That's the cutting line here - teaching historical narratives is what we should do. Teaching ideological narratives derived from CRT are not appropriate for K-12.

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Can’t speak for all regions. My Canadian public school experience was quite different.

Does Canada have independent school district funding concept?

Not sure about every province. In Ontario property taxes cover an amount and then the province covers the rest to bring it up to the mandated funding level for all schools. So even schools in low income areas get the same funding. It also means regions with plenty of local wealth cover their own costs.

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None of the things you've enumerated are policy positions of the DNC, at either the state or the federal levels. This comes off more as a laundry list of grievances than a reasoned political position.

No political party is going to say the quiet parts out loud.

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Efforts towards gerrymandering, and the tendency of people to move out of states with laws that oppress them, make such actions future-proof.

Also the extraordinary difficulty of voting in Florida if you have a felony charge.

I'm ok with convicted rapists having to sit elections out.

Judicial overreach of felonies is a different discussion.

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The race one seems pretty obvious though? It's just compounding interest and that's been taught forever, and as part of math classes on exponents It's not an extreme ideology to realize that the people who bought houses during redlining are much much wealthier now as a result. Hell, if most of most Americans wealth is owning their house, redlining is gonna be the most influential thing to wealth inequality between pe…

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