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PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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It seems to be the general trend - HP, Google being the poster companies for this - post-founder companies seem to lose their soul altogether, if they had one to start with. I wonder if that is because the skills and values needed to climb the corporate ladder to Executive positions are fundamentally different from those of Founders that formed their ethos in the broader society, outside of the ladder-climbing enviro…

The key quote I see in a lot of these stories is "change the culture" and it seems the decision to change the culture from what got you there to something else is done entirely without understanding what the current culture actually is.

> The key quote I see in a lot of these stories is "change the culture" and it seems the decision to change the culture from what got you there to something else is done entirely without understanding what the current culture actually is.

That's a great point. Might be splitting hairs a little bit here - but the question must be asked - if the ethos of the Successors are fundamentally different from those of the Founders, maybe the "change the culture" is deliberate, to align with the ethos of the Successors?

There's an additional factor at play here: age. The Founders of the two companies - HP and Google - were in their 20s at the time of founding. The Successors were likely much older (40s? 50s?) when they took over - it takes time to climb to the Executive positions. How much of an impact that simple number (Age at Founding/Succession) would have had on what culture would be fostered. It would be really interesting to see a macro study on cultures at companies 1-5 years from Founding/Succession, grouped by age decade (20s, 30s, 40s) at founding/succession. Dell and Apple could be case studies onto themselves because their founders left and then came back at a different age.

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Well I’ll be damned. Seeing all the commentary here I have to ask, when did the HN crowd get so based?

There's a lot of hustle involved with startup culture and corporate work. I think the pandemic laid bare a lot of the bs around corporate messaging in general, everyone has read all about the bulk of the pie going to very few people indeed, and our newer generations seem to be very savvy about the lack of opportunities, even with the hustle. What's the point of grinding if there is nothing to show for it?

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If you're a line worker businesses, managers, and executives are not your friends. That might seem controversial to some, but to me it's just the pecking order. Executives usually take home large sums from these businesses for very little personal risk. Meanwhile, line workers are the ones that produce the product that earns them large sums in bonuses while sacrificing their time, energy, and often personal well-bein…

That's a very negative take on life. As a startup founder I pay myself less than our team members and work very long hours. (130 person company atm)

Then this message is probably not for you. In regards to my own experience at startups, I've never met a selfish founder (not to say they don't exist). I'm specifically talking about established companies. Something happens to an exec (typically) when they move from close proximity startup world to ruling a fiefdom.

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Her communication is almost like the result of a chatGPT prompt of the type:

"Write an email for employees, announcing a 10% layoff, associated with something along the lines of being better positioned for the future, and use a Martin Luther King Jr quote, to impress the audience"

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"Suggesting that someone traded sex for a position of power is sexist... now hold my beer while I do exactly that w.r.t. the sitting Vice President of the United States." Your point would've been much stronger had you not used this as an opportunity for a political cheap shot; your last paragraph completely nullifies the three preceding it.

Kamala Harris used her relationship to obtain considerable power in a nakedly callous manner, it's a stark reality. Aside from the more vulgar elements, it's immoral and wold be illegal in most circumstances; it's just straight corruption. To wit, those participating in these actions are Lawmakers and those responsible for the Justice System aka District Attorney, further embroiling the hypocrisy in the situation. It…

> Kamala Harris used her relationship to obtain considerable power in a nakedly callous manner, it's a stark reality.

[citation needed]

> hence my calling out the individual OP for making arbitrary insinuations.

Calling out someone for making arbitrary insinuations while yourself making arbitrary insinuations is blatantly hypocritical and - as you put it - "nakedly callous". Your comments boil down to "if the allegations are against a woman on my team then they're false but if they're against a woman on the other team then they're true". Maybe that ain't your intention, but that's how it reads.

There was zero good-faith reason to bring up Kamala Harris apropos nothing - and in doing so (and in doubling down on doing so) you've obliterated your own argument.

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Unless you think inflation doesn't matter, the economy has only been well-functioning for the last couple months, and was in big trouble for the previous year and a half.

Inflation is the tool that the Fed was attempting to use to slow down the economy. Q1 and Q2 only look bad because they kept raising rates nonstop. Hell, Q4 of 2021 saw 7% growth.

You're saying they're not trying to slow down the economy to lower inflation, but rather inflation is the tool to slow down the economy with???

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> PagerDuty is not a messaging platform. > PD is an enterprise-grade process augmentation and automation tool wrapped around notifying responders about incidents. This is a good argument. > But ask yourself this: PD has competitors that provide messaging and schedules and cost less than PD. So even if they aren't free, why are customers paying more for PD? This is not a good argument. Businesses make tons of non-opti…

We'll have to agree to disagree about non-optimal purchases. Lots of purchases are non-optimal, but how often do people climb onto their soapbox and say that everyone buying Apple hardware is making a "non-optimal" purchase? At some point, you look at a company with a couple of hundred million or billion or couple of hundred billion in annual revenues, and you can't dismiss all of that revenue as "non-optimal." A bet…

> At some point, you look at a company with a couple of hundred million or billion or couple of hundred billion in annual revenues, and you can't dismiss all of that revenue as "non-optimal."

Sure I can. Oracle is awful.

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>this recession HN needs to stop repeating this nonsense to one another. We are not in a recession. The latest GDP figures came out yesterday, and growth beat expectations by 12%. Service industries are hiring. The tech sector can no longer make billions by using AI to draw cat faces on selfie pics, but that has little bearing on the rest of the economy. People on this site have willfully changed the definition of re…

Of course we aren't in a recession. It's why the business class has been losing their goddamned minds. They keep attempting to force us into one so that they can slow down the economy and get a Republican in the White House again, but companies are having so much fun gobbling up record profits via record markups that interest rates aren't mattering as much as they should. We have an entire new generation of C-suite e…

What a completely weird conspiracy theory. Are you saying big tech execs are republicans? This is literally just blue maga qanon rhetoric. They said the exact same about "the elite" sabotaging trump back in 2020 by tanking the economy since it was doing too well for him to lose.

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CEO's are completely detached from reality. Glad we got rid of pagerduty by hiring a couple folks outside of the US. Now everyone gets to sleep.

I have no words to express how much I hate US culture around on call duty. When I was on call in Europe, in 2 different countries, it was either: * you're on call but you get paid extra hours for each hour on call. This was enforced by law. You're asking an employee to put in more than the legal 40-ish hours? You pay. Let me tell you that companies only used that when they really cared about being up 24/7. * your wor…

I work for a European company and on-call is mandatory (part of your employment contract, and no additional compensation). However, the culture around it is completely different. You're expected to take the next day off if you get paged in the middle of the night (unless it's like a 5 min false alarm), you get to expense all meals while on-call, and your manager freely gives time off in lieu if you have a bad shift.

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In the future, please rely on HR-PT3 to generate layoff emails so that the responsible party can be kill -9ed.

Most official communication reads so sterile already. Might as well just train a model with the latest DEI-speak.

You joke, but ChatGPT generated a short musical skit about that for me a week ago!
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