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PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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If you ask ChatGPT to compose a layoff email with a quote from MLK that is the quote it uses (ref https://twitter.com/mattstratton/status/1618018859763798016 )

Maybe she saw this tweet and that's where she got the idea?

When I saw the title here I thought maybe that tweet was satirizing her email, but, the tweet clearly predates it.

Amazing.

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#43

I'm really happy for her. Worst CEO has typically been a male dominated category. It's nice see some diversity in lacking empathy and having over inflated egos.

“Who is Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos)?”

She is the definite leader in the category of callous CEOs.

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tldr; You’re fired, we’re doing great thanks to cutting your cost, but stay strong in your job search during this recession like those who have been persecuted for the color of their skin!

>this recession HN needs to stop repeating this nonsense to one another. We are not in a recession. The latest GDP figures came out yesterday, and growth beat expectations by 12%. Service industries are hiring. The tech sector can no longer make billions by using AI to draw cat faces on selfie pics, but that has little bearing on the rest of the economy. People on this site have willfully changed the definition of re…

Something along these lines:

“It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job. It’s a depression when you lose your own.”

― Harry S. Truman

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

#47
post #17

If you ask ChatGPT to compose a layoff email with a quote from MLK that is the quote it uses (ref https://twitter.com/mattstratton/status/1618018859763798016 )

Maybe she saw this tweet and that's where she got the idea? When I saw the title here I thought maybe that tweet was satirizing her email, but, the tweet clearly predates it. Amazing.

Huh.. not only the quote but also the promotion bit.

I'm shocked. Must be a case of her having read this tweet and subconsciously regurgitating it. Otherwise I'm scared for our eventual chatgpt overlords.

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use it I am pretty happy with its. Of course in theory no company need to exist, but what do you propose people use instead?

It’s sort of surprising this isn’t a product in various cloud providers; there are open source options of course (which cost engineering time), but this could also be as straightforward as a scheduler using existing IAM (user list) and messaging (voice, email, sms, webhooks) interfaces. You’d of course still be able to use this with non cloud infra based on telemetry or other signals to trigger the initial incident.…

Boy does this remind me of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Scheduling is more complex than just an IAM list: there are escalation policies, the actual phase of the schedule, dealing with additions/removals, overrides, and not to mention the entirety of routing pages for which PD's solution isn't even powerful enough for our needs … because the problem is more complex than they bargained for! Not to mention the telephony & mobile integrations, which are still lackluster, the desire to be able to have some things not page on weekends, etc.

I sort of do acknowledge that, yeah, this does seem like a place where AWS could easily kill PD by just offering their own version and leveraging their weight as a cloud provider. But they haven't, so that doesn't really matter to the person you've replied to.

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tldr; You’re fired, we’re doing great thanks to cutting your cost, but stay strong in your job search during this recession like those who have been persecuted for the color of their skin!

>this recession HN needs to stop repeating this nonsense to one another. We are not in a recession. The latest GDP figures came out yesterday, and growth beat expectations by 12%. Service industries are hiring. The tech sector can no longer make billions by using AI to draw cat faces on selfie pics, but that has little bearing on the rest of the economy. People on this site have willfully changed the definition of re…

Of course we aren't in a recession. It's why the business class has been losing their goddamned minds. They keep attempting to force us into one so that they can slow down the economy and get a Republican in the White House again, but companies are having so much fun gobbling up record profits via record markups that interest rates aren't mattering as much as they should. We have an entire new generation of C-suite executives who have no clue how to play along. When else in recent television history has a well-functioning economy been met with consternation by the hosts and guests?

Re: PagerDuty CEO Quotes Martin Luther King Jr. In Worst Layoff Email Ever

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use it I am pretty happy with its. Of course in theory no company need to exist, but what do you propose people use instead?

It’s sort of surprising this isn’t a product in various cloud providers; there are open source options of course (which cost engineering time), but this could also be as straightforward as a scheduler using existing IAM (user list) and messaging (voice, email, sms, webhooks) interfaces. You’d of course still be able to use this with non cloud infra based on telemetry or other signals to trigger the initial incident.…

PagerDuty engineer here. PagerDuty is not a messaging platform. You are correct that there are free products that can schedule people and send them messages, and with some elegant baling wire and duct tape, anyone can put together something that looks like a notification service.

But ask yourself this: PD has competitors that provide messaging and schedules and cost less than PD. So even if they aren't free, why are customers paying more for PD? It's not like they don't evaluate 2-3 products before choosing PD. They are choosing to pay more, so there's more to their decision than just "What's the cheapest way to notify people when we get a signal from monitoring that something's amiss."

PD is an enterprise-grade process augmentation and automation tool wrapped around notifying responders about incidents. And wrapped around that are layers of what pg called "muck," functionality that accommodates the needs of enterprise-grade customers like permissions, integrations, teams, analytics, AIOps for filtering noise and resolving things that don't require human intervention and so on.

That's not special, it's how all "Enterprise" software works. At its core is something that people on HN will regularly boast they could code up in a weekend, a long weekend at most, and they're not wrong. But wrapped around that simple core are layers of functionality that accommodate how large companies manage the activity mediated by that core.

I don't want to spark a long debate about PD's value, I urge you to see this as a pattern that applies to a lot of software that is sold B2B: The value is in the stuff around what appears to be the primary value proposition.

If HN readers want to get into the Enterprise software business, embracing that pattern is mandatory: You will generate most of your economic value by taking an idea that at its core isn't that hard to duplicate, but wrapping it in accommodations for the baroque and sometimes-dystopian org structures you sell into.

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