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ChatGPT and the Enshittening of Knowledge
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#142If you think of the knowledge base of the internet as a living thing, ChatGPT is a like a virus that now threatens its life. This is the same process SEO spam caused for search - it hampers the nature by which things function and the river needs to reroute (pagerank then usage metadata) to replace the lost signal. ChatGPT is more of an existential threat because it will propagate to infect other knowledge bases. Luke…
A-grade bullshitter as the article puts it is pretty accurate. Thought I would test it and just asked ChatGPT if it knew the Voyager episode "11:59", the answer got everything wrong. Season, number and date, all incorrect.
>"11:59" is an episode of the science fiction television series Star Trek: Voyager. The episode originally aired on February 9, 2000 as the 11th episode of the sixth season.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Were they right, though? I am pretty sure I've seen research that compared the scope and accuracy of both and wikipedia was miles ahead.
In most areas you're correct, but the political slant/bias of Wikipedia is fairly blatant and is getting worse. See for example: https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/41946110
What about political biases of those who publish traditional encyclopedias?
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
>And worse, then ChatGPT will digest its own excrement, worsening its own results further I wonder if we'll get a "dead sea effect" with AI, I've seen some stuff saying they've basically run out of high quality training data and now the training pool will get poisoned by AI generated shit. Basically garbage in, garbage out and these large language models might not be able to improve
We are nowhere near out of data. We're just out of hyper-relevant modern data. There is probably about 100-200T of old books, newspapers, journal articles, magazines and so forth. For reference, GPT3 was trained on 45T.
Just order of magnitude seems pretty close to out of data, actually, if beyond that we're looking at the firehose of low-density bulk-generated modern data.
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#145Man everyone is on the ChatGPT bandwagon, even Al Qaeda is on it:
htthttps://twitter.com/khorasandiary/status/1618682313528975360
Re: ChatGPT and the Enshittening of Knowledge
#146If you think of the knowledge base of the internet as a living thing, ChatGPT is a like a virus that now threatens its life. This is the same process SEO spam caused for search - it hampers the nature by which things function and the river needs to reroute (pagerank then usage metadata) to replace the lost signal. ChatGPT is more of an existential threat because it will propagate to infect other knowledge bases. Luke…
I don't really understand this hypothesis as it assumes that information quality of AI generated content on the internet will drop as a result of ChatGPT, not increase. The way I see it is that ChatGPT isn't the only tool out there that can create spam and junk content. The only difference is that ChatGPT produces something that's of a high enough quality that it's not as easy for a human to easily classify it as spa…
>And something you can't easily classify as spam arguably isn't spam
Something that's not obviously junk but is entirely wrong is even worse than something that is obviously junk. It'll waste more time and probably convince more people of falsehoods.
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#147This post is unavailable in a... peculiar way: $ curl -I https://castlebridge.ie/insights/chatgpt-and-the-enshittening-of-knowledge/ HTTP/2 302 server: nginx date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:53:41 GMT content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-length: 282 location: http://google.com If this is hosting provider's response to HN death hug, it's very poorly executed.
Try setting your user agent to something that looks like a browser.
I'm using a browser and also getting redirected to Google.
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#148This post is unavailable in a... peculiar way: $ curl -I https://castlebridge.ie/insights/chatgpt-and-the-enshittening-of-knowledge/ HTTP/2 302 server: nginx date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:53:41 GMT content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-length: 282 location: http://google.com If this is hosting provider's response to HN death hug, it's very poorly executed.
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#149Can't we add a feature to ChatGPT that goes as follows : "Did you write this and if so when?" That would solve like 80% of issues.
If I understand you correctly, this doesn't work because ChatGPT isn't the only language model in the world. It's only the most popular at this point in time.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Detect ChatGPT responses, only $249” It’s just a new chapter in the arms race of spam techniques vs detection. Lots of money presumably made selling both sides.
GPT has a hidden steganographic watermark in its output, so the arms race should be one-sided.
Do you know how that works? I am unfortunately pretty ignorant about this topic but that seems like such a cool and difficult thing to create.