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Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts

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arcticbull wrote: post #254
hot_gril wrote: post #200

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Yeah I never use Apple Pay, it's useless

Apple Pay is super useful for a US-based person while traveling internationally because Apple Pay supports CDCVM. This means that if you have a card that ordinarily requires a signature at the point of sale in the US, you can can use that card in Apple Pay, in Europe or anywhere else, without signing. If you use the physical card, you have to sign. If you try and use the physical card at an automated terminal that do…

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time I travel. Last time, the country didn't have Apple Pay.

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asiachick wrote: post #210
hot_gril wrote: post #178

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I don't use enough tech stuff to care. I have an iPhone and a Mac, and they go together in a few ways like iMessage, but that's not the reason I have both. They're just good products. I would swap one of them out if I didn't like it. The deeper integrations are just toys; why would I even remotely need a Homepod or an Apple Watch? Why would I use the crappy News app on my Mac instead of a web browser? The scarier thi…

someone will turn this into politics at some point. Someone will promote that reds use Android and Windows PCs, blues use iPhone and Macs. Then you'll need to fall in line or get cancelled. not looking forward to it.

If computer usage ever became political, I think these companies are smart enough to play both sides.

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Post by hoorible »

swyx wrote: post #232
l33tbro wrote: post #45

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Overcast really destroys everything else I've used for listening to a podcast. Simple and intuitive UI, customizable streaming/download settings, quickly add any podcast - and that's at the free level. I would never go back to Apple or even Spotify. I rarely get enthusiastic about apps, but it's awesome when one clearly demonstrates a team having gone 'how can we get this right'?

i really just wish overcast had: - listen history (with stats, so i can know what i spent the most time on and tell them/reward them accordingly) - good history search (that doesnt keep searching podcasts im not subscribed to) - good to-listen search (that doesnt keep searching podcasts im not subscribed to) - would be nice: on device transcription

Can’t speak to the rest of it, but Marco has said that he’s working on something on the “listen history” front after tons of request from people asking for something à la Spotify Wrapped.

The trick is that he’s very adamantly (and correctly imo) opposed to user tracking of almost any kind, which I think complicates things here

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Post by dkonofalski »

bastawhiz wrote: post #112
dkonofalski wrote: post #90

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>Moreover, you physically can't leave, because your listeners won't follow you to your new hosting service. This is patently not true. I've had to do this after a podcast host had an outage and our followers moved over because we posted on social that there was a new feed. Joe Rogan's followers moved to Spotify just fine after he removed all other traces of his show. It's not great but you're literally getting what y…

As I said, this literally doesn't apply to Apple's own service, as they don't use RSS feeds. It works with every other hosting service.

They don't need to. We didn't either since the server hosting the RSS feed was down. You just tell your subscribers to move on whatever platforms you're advertising on.

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Post by dkonofalski »

ryanbrunner wrote: post #226
dkonofalski wrote: post #90

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>Moreover, you physically can't leave, because your listeners won't follow you to your new hosting service. This is patently not true. I've had to do this after a podcast host had an outage and our followers moved over because we posted on social that there was a new feed. Joe Rogan's followers moved to Spotify just fine after he removed all other traces of his show. It's not great but you're literally getting what y…

I'm assuming it wasn't anywhere close to 100% though, which a simple 301 redirect would give you. Every podcast host I'm aware of would be happy to do that for you.

That wasn't possible as the host was completely down. I'm not sure if it was 100% but we had more followers on the new platform than the old one within the first month so most of them must have followed.

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Post by oehpr »

vk6flab wrote: post #114

I have produced a weekly podcast about amateur radio since 2011. It was hosted on S3 since I started because it became immediately clear that any other option would put my content under the control of someone who did not have my best interest at heart. Today it's mirrored across dozens of aggregators, converted to eBooks, converted to Morse Code, uploaded to YouTube, posted on social media, emailed to listeners and i…

I've thought a lot about this, and I still scratch my head over what might work. The system I think kinda fits is bug bounties. Someone registers a problem, a need, and submits a reward for filling it. Others who have that problem can add to the pot, and eventually someone can claim the pot by filling the request, with the fruits of that labor available to all.

But, there are obvious holes here. Like what constitutes "filling that request". In the context of actual bug bounties, at the minimum the bug goes away. For something like a painting? A podcast?

  I need a beautiful sunset" 
  - "Here's this photo of the sun setting that I took outside the safeway"  
  - - "nah."  
  - "Here's this hand crafted lovingly painted canvas I made over the course of 3 weeks"  
  - - "nah. (but I'll just save a copy of that thanks)"
Honestly I don't know! I want endeavors like yours to be fairly compensated for the value it adds to society, but the core of our society and how we transact is rooted in scarcity. Data isn't scarce. Novelty is. Attention is. But not data.

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Post by duxup »

pwinnski wrote: post #306
duxup wrote: post #106

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> and then delete their local copies I don’t understand this practice. Why would you delete your own local content you probably took time to create and care about….? This strikes me as just a novice computer user type thing.

Or your computer crashed and you're having to rebuild from a failed backup. Or you're traveling away from your backups and need access. Or you upload from one device and usually download to your archive on another device. There are more scenarios in heaven and earth than I could possibly list here.

None of that was described by the author. I have trouble believing they think of it as a backup service…

If they do I think it is just another misunderstanding on the author’s part.

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Post by hot_gril »

arvinsim wrote: post #271
hot_gril wrote: post #194

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There are people who get iPhones just for iMessage. They don't want to be the one person who puts the entire group chat into "green bubble" mode. People accuse Apple of doing this intentionally, but you know, it's not their fault SMS is terrible; even Android users tend to use WhatsApp or something for group chats.

At least WhatsApp can be used in iOS. Can iMessage be used in Android? No.

I think the SMS fallback makes this fair. Apple saw how bad SMS is, they made it so iPhone-iPhone convos use an upgraded mode or fall back to SMS automatically, and I don't see why it's their job to give the upgraded mode to everyone for free. You can still talk to Android users in the same app.

They even put early effort into making Macs send/receive SMS via the iPhone. Google didn't do something similar until recently, or did they, hard to tell with their chat app naming.

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Post by swyx »

hoorible wrote: post #313
swyx wrote: post #232

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i really just wish overcast had: - listen history (with stats, so i can know what i spent the most time on and tell them/reward them accordingly) - good history search (that doesnt keep searching podcasts im not subscribed to) - good to-listen search (that doesnt keep searching podcasts im not subscribed to) - would be nice: on device transcription

Can’t speak to the rest of it, but Marco has said that he’s working on something on the “listen history” front after tons of request from people asking for something à la Spotify Wrapped. The trick is that he’s very adamantly (and correctly imo) opposed to user tracking of almost any kind, which I think complicates things here

sure but thats not at odds with using data you already have, storing it locally, to strictly improve user experience

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Post by hoorible »

swyx wrote: post #319
hoorible wrote: post #313

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Can’t speak to the rest of it, but Marco has said that he’s working on something on the “listen history” front after tons of request from people asking for something à la Spotify Wrapped. The trick is that he’s very adamantly (and correctly imo) opposed to user tracking of almost any kind, which I think complicates things here

sure but thats not at odds with using data you already have, storing it locally, to strictly improve user experience

Oh for sure, I’m not saying it’s not feasible but I think it’s not unreasonable that people would want this feature to work/sync across multiple devices, and that’s where the much higher complexity comes in since syncing that data reliably using CloudKit seems to be frustrating atm (none of this is my domain at all, just pure speculation based on what I’ve read and recall him saying on podcasts so I could be way off)
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