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Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by zdragnar »

atdrummond wrote: post #55

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For the other inhabitants of the world, certainly, but by what metric has it been a disaster for the human race? There are potential serious issues in the making, but as of yet we are largely living longer and with lower rates of malnutrition and starvation than any time before us.

To keep growing (both in quantity but also in health and life outcomes) we will need to find a new balance. We weren't necessarily in balance of any sort before then, either. Everything changes, and we will keep changing with the times.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by lofatdairy »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #56
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

I never understand this mentality. Keep undeveloped land undeveloped for what? People would rather have unemployment and opiate addicts instead of development and progress.

I don't think GP is advocating to keep the land undeveloped. They even go so far as the point out how the area makes a lot of sense for developers. The problems they identify seem to be 1) the reckless abandon to which developers are damaging ecosystems 2) an economic situation that allows developers to benefit significantly without these benefits necessarily passing into the community 3) the significant challenges of rapid population growth and 4) the fact that this development threatens their home. These are worth discussing and balancing against any benefits.

I also object your false dichotomy, and the idea that employment and "progress" (I doubt we can ever objectively make such a declaration) are zero-sum here.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by LarryMullins »

doublerabbit wrote: post #41
LarryMullins wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because people live there? Nah forget it, evacuate the whole state and let nature take over under the unbounded logic of "why not more." 400 acres is basically nothing compared to the scale of an entire state. It's less than a single square mile. Ohio has more than 40,000 square miles.

> 400 acres is basically nothing It's still something. 400 trees are still better then 1. It's more than you and I will ever own. It's lot of land which could provide so much resource we desperately need. For good rather than evil. 1 acre ~ 4848 trees - That's a lot of trees. 4848 squirrels if each squirrel had a tree each, 4848 birds. So lets complain about the worlds state while we continue to suck resources for co…

I encourage you to leave the city and get a real sense of geographic scale.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by jimjimjim »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #56
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

I never understand this mentality. Keep undeveloped land undeveloped for what? People would rather have unemployment and opiate addicts instead of development and progress.

don't come crying to me about the rising cost of canned air

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by redonkulus »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Real life Yellowstone but instead of ski resorts and casino's, its data centers.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by lofatdairy »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #50
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Digression: Why do people out there make such a big deal about " The Ohio State University"? Is it just pretentiousness? Is it that "there's only one state university in Ohio, and we're it"? (Which seems like an odd point of pride.) Or what?

There _is_ an Ohio University that can cause confusion, even for Ohio natives. The reasons for the definite article though stem from its legal history and has mostly just become a way Ohioans signify as being "in the know". Anyone unironically taking offense probably takes offense at the idea OSU's reputation doesn't extend much further out the Midwest (speaking as an Ohioan).

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by automatoney »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #50
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Digression: Why do people out there make such a big deal about " The Ohio State University"? Is it just pretentiousness? Is it that "there's only one state university in Ohio, and we're it"? (Which seems like an odd point of pride.) Or what?

Read it as like underdog state pride, in the sense of "the one and only" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/the%20one%20and%2.... It's certainly not the only state university - Ohio University is only about an hour away.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by sparrc »

tester756 wrote: post #5

Is Ohio becoming tech heartland?

Do datacenters actually do anything to draw in engineering or a significant number of tech jobs? Beyond just HVAC and a few server operations people.

us-west-2 certainly hasn't done much to make The Dalles, Oregon a tech hub (or even Portland for that matter)

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by eagleinparadise »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #56
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

I never understand this mentality. Keep undeveloped land undeveloped for what? People would rather have unemployment and opiate addicts instead of development and progress.

Yeah, these people have the decision to sell or hold. Yet people blather on asif some anon-gov't agent "stole land" or something
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