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Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by doublerabbit »

LarryMullins wrote: post #38
doublerabbit wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not more?

Because people live there? Nah forget it, evacuate the whole state and let nature take over under the unbounded logic of "why not more." 400 acres is basically nothing compared to the scale of an entire state. It's less than a single square mile. Ohio has more than 40,000 square miles.

> 400 acres is basically nothing

It's still something. 400 trees are still better then 1. It's more than you and I will ever own. It's lot of land which could provide so much resource we desperately need. For good rather than evil.

1 acre ~ 4848 trees - That's a lot of trees. 4848 squirrels if each squirrel had a tree each, 4848 birds.

So lets complain about the worlds state while we continue to suck resources for construction with wastage of water for cooling as electricity is funneled via fossil fuels; polluting the air we breath. Killing natural ecosystems from destroyed habitats all while causing climate changes for more for nothing other than what? You tell me. So you can run your fancy JavaScript app?

I refuse to use any operative service Amazon provides. Apart from network connectivity where I'm forced to use against my will; they're just an another evil corporate entity who cares about nothing other than money. Where's the care for their workers?

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by nickpeterson »

samvher wrote: post #6

It's not obvious to me why it would be very beneficial to have a data center close to an Intel plant, but it sounds a bit like it might not be a coincidence that they're close together. If someone knows why this pairing makes sense, care to explain? (The closest thing I can think of is low delivery costs on electronics, but that seems really tiny compared to basically anything else that matters here, and it's not lik…

I went to high school in New Albany in the early 2000s, it’s crazy to me how developed that whole area has become. Likely to have some big downsides, but tax money isn’t one of them.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by rconti »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Is this Delaware?

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by nickpeterson »

jeffbee wrote: post #14

Interesting. I associate the region with air pollution and carbon-intensive power. Ohio is near the bottom of the 50 states in wind and solar energy. A few years ago I would not have said Ohio was going to attract so much datacenter construction, but now every big datacenter operator is there.

Carbon intensive power is likely cheaper, unfortunately, so there’s that.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by rotten »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Oh, I think they already started construction on a second AWS ohio-east availability zone in this development area. The new acquisition raises the possibility of a third one here.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by rotten »

rconti wrote: post #43
rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Is this Delaware?

No, New Albany-Johnstown. Delaware is 40 - 45 minute drive.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by makestuff »

tester756 wrote: post #5

Is Ohio becoming tech heartland?

I thought Chicago/Illinois had a good shot at becoming the midwest tech hub, but Ohio seems to be making a good run at it. Don't get me wrong Chicago has tech companies, but Columbus is making some major gains there.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by zengid »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

That went from an exciting story about a growing tech hub to an intimate tale of the wake of destruction taking place. Sorry to hear about the disruption this development is bringing. I do feel like this is exciting for the central US, having grown up in the mid-west. I hope you and your family don't get bulldozed over!

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by leesalminen »

doublerabbit wrote: post #39
leesalminen wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you against all new development of land for commercial purposes? Or is it something about data centers in particular?

Any new development that doesn't give back to the resources it takes, yes. If Amazon were to build a 400 acre DC and then contribute 800 acres of land as replacement, no problem. But 400 acres of destroyed habitat involving more air pollution, strain on planetary resources for a company which makes billions in profit and doesn't pay back. Where's the positive?

It seems to me that if the people of Ohio thought that donating 800 acres to nature reserves was important the government could’ve made it happen.

It would’ve cost Amazon peanuts, made legislators look good, and be good for the planet.

The positive is pretty clear- there are still billions of people not connected to the internet. I believe internet access should be a human right as it provides educational and economic opportunities, connects people closer together, among various things.

So, it all seems not so black and white to me.

Re: Amazon acquires 400 acres near new Intel development in Ohio

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

rotten wrote: post #34

I live next to where this is going in (walking distance). We already have a huge Google Data Center, One of the Ohio-east region availability zones. A Meta data center and office park, and a dbt data center under construction all within a short radius. We also have a vitamin factory being built, we have a large Amazon Fulfillment center, an R&D lab for a perfume company, and an R&D lab for plastics packaging. All of…

Digression: Why do people out there make such a big deal about "The Ohio State University"? Is it just pretentiousness? Is it that "there's only one state university in Ohio, and we're it"? (Which seems like an odd point of pride.) Or what?
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