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Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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post #111

Get yourself to a therapist, and evaluated by a psychiatrist. Concerns around holistic well-being aside, it is an urgent practical matter for you to be able to sustain yourself. For me, the combination of COVID, a soul-sucking employer (though with a fantastic team I miss very much), and being unable to see my family on the other side of the planet for three years was too much. I'd have been fired were it not for the…

It's a very helpful response! Thank you :)

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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There is no single answer. You search for and decide what makes life meaningful for you.

There are a lot of great answers in this thread, I particularly like inphovore and Waterluvian's, but yours might be different.

You need some minimal things to find happiness, enough food, shelter, and health. Sadly, in the US, we don't get those things, but there are places that can help you. You may need to move. You may need to live with family, friends, or strangers to get started on your journey. But, you must start your journey and only you can do it.

Read quotes from Mark Twain, The Obstacle is the Way, and The Conquest of Happiness.

Do something that brings you joy and embrace it -- this is particular hard for me. I'm still searching after 50 years.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Contentedness can be found doing things for other people, e:g if you have kids, if the software you work on helps others, if you do some caring for relatives, if you are a good friend. Meaning isn't hard to find IMHO but it involves doing things for other people! The happiest people I know do that so much, they're far too busy to have angst about "what's my purpose" . But human nature being what it is, we tend to do stuff for ourselves instead, which doesn't satisfy in the same way. I am guilty of that at times like alone else. The person I believe had the most smart things to say about this subject was Jesus. Whether he was the son of God or not is a topic for another time. ;) I happen to think he was, and is. Even for people who doesn't think he was, if you look at what he was reported to have said, it seems a lot smarter to me than anything said by any other human. Basically distills to "love your neighbour as yourself". Just my 2p, others may strongly disagree, and that seems OK to me. :)

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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post #41

The pursuit of outcomes, or the search for fulfillment and satisfaction, is a fundamental aspect of human nature. It is natural to strive for goals and to desire to improve one's circumstances. However, it is also true that the attainment of a goal does not necessarily bring lasting satisfaction. This phenomenon is often referred to as the "hedonic treadmill," where people quickly adapt to new levels of achievement a…

Chatgpt?

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Consider Schopenhauer‘s telic vs atelic pursuits vis-a-vis happiness. Telic pursuits are those like you reference, badges of honor that have an end (job promotion, raise, bigger house, whatever). These are inevitably and ultimately unsatisfying. Atelic pursuits, on the other hand, have no end. Like a craftsman, you are always honing them, never “done”. These are where fulfillment comes from. Being the best [x] you can be. Father, runner, etc. The journey is the destination.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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post #46

I don't know what anyone else is chasing, but I know precisely what my primary goal is. I want to live a life of idle leisure. I'm 20% of the way to my goal now that I only work 4 days (32 hours) a week. It may be that I don't get to 100% until retirement, if I'm even able to retire at all. It may be that I have a setback and end up working 5 days again. It may be that I get extremely lucky earlier than that. I know…

How did you achieve 4 days a week? Curious to hear about your strategy.

Not OP but I’d recommend looking at the r/FIRE, r/LeanFIRE, r/ChubbyFIRE, and r/FatFIRE as starting points for how people in various situations retire early, often by scaling from 5 workdays to 0 workdays over time rather than abruptly in the traditional retirement context.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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We are “multistaged” beings: First stage: As Animals, we are chasing our impulses. It is just LIFE. Second stage : As Rational Beings, we are chasing our "personal" desires/goals. Most people, most of the time, are content to feel the satisfaction and move on to the next one. However, for some, sometimes, a voice emerges, a nagging voice. It says: "What are we even chasing?". The satisfaction is not there anymore. Th…

Has some elements of Maslow's pyramid of needs, perhaps interesting to see what others have looked into.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_need...

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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post #116

My answer was found by having kids. For me, one of the absolute best things about having kids was that it eliminated all doubt: I now had a 100% crystal clear main quest that trivially answers, "what should I be doing right now?" if I'm ever not sure. Everything else in life, especially my career, is just a side quest now. Why am I working? Before kids I foolishly thought it had something to do with being part of a t…

What would you tell your kids, if they ever ask you what they should be chasing?

I’ll let you know when I figure that out. But the general idea I have in mind is: figure it out by chasing a lot of things a little bit and see what drives you the most. (and appreciate that it can change and that’s okay!)
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