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Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

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Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#111
Get yourself to a therapist, and evaluated by a psychiatrist. Concerns around holistic well-being aside, it is an urgent practical matter for you to be able to sustain yourself.

For me, the combination of COVID, a soul-sucking employer (though with a fantastic team I miss very much), and being unable to see my family on the other side of the planet for three years was too much. I'd have been fired were it not for the fantastic team. I had almost nowhere else to turn, so I finally took the (extensive) advice to see a therapist. Between therapy and psychiatry I found what was needed to get myself out of the awful job and into one I enjoy, and I can be productive again.

Once sustaining yourself is worked out and the pressure is off, you can work on the more holistic aspects.

Good luck mate! Happy to talk further in the comments if you'd like.

Context for those who haven't read OP's replies below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34520883

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#113
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, we are hugely complicated gene-replication/improvement machines. So you have come to the ultimate conclusion without actually spelling it out. If you really go to the basics then ones life is about attracting the best other-side of the genes to replicate with (this is the part where you try to impress with brains/humor/sportscar that you have the best available genes) and make sure they survive + get a nice b…

you have described only the biological component of existence, but being alive is more complicated than that

What would that be?

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#114
We are “multistaged” beings:

First stage: As Animals, we are chasing our impulses. It is just LIFE.

Second stage : As Rational Beings, we are chasing our "personal" desires/goals. Most people, most of the time, are content to feel the satisfaction and move on to the next one.

However, for some, sometimes, a voice emerges, a nagging voice. It says: "What are we even chasing?". The satisfaction is not there anymore. The wall crumbles, the void is overwhelming. Sometimes it is called depression.

Third Stage: This is what some would call “Spiritual”: as Spiritual beings, we are chasing...that void. Or more to the point, the void is chasing us (especially if we ignore it). Yes maybe it is not a "mere" (as you said) emptiness afterall. Maybe we should pay special attention to what this "emptiness" is telling us.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#115
CS Lewis captured this perfectly in his essay " The Inner Ring". TLDR: there is none.

>As long as you are governed by that desire you will never get what you want. You are trying to peel an onion: if you succeed there will be nothing left. Until you conquer the fear of being an outsider, an outsider you will remain.

>If all you want is to be in the know, your pleasure will be short lived. The circle cannot have from within the charm it had from outside. By the very act of admitting you it has lost its magic.

>You merely wanted to be “in.” And that is a pleasure that cannot last. As soon as your new associates have been staled to you by custom, you will be looking for another Ring. The rainbow’s end will still be ahead of you. The old ring will now be only the drab background for your endeavor to enter the new one.

https://www.lewissociety.org/innerring/

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#116

My answer was found by having kids. For me, one of the absolute best things about having kids was that it eliminated all doubt: I now had a 100% crystal clear main quest that trivially answers, "what should I be doing right now?" if I'm ever not sure. Everything else in life, especially my career, is just a side quest now. Why am I working? Before kids I foolishly thought it had something to do with being part of a t…

What would you tell your kids, if they ever ask you what they should be chasing?

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#117
Read some philosophers who have didicated writings handling those topics. It might change your views on the matter in a more meaningful way than HN crowd. I would try to find something, I am passionate about and try to use my skillset in that area. There is plenty there [1]. Personally, I try to make the world just a little better and keep my physical and mental well being in check.

[1] https://80000hours.org/

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#118
You really poked all the religious and spiritual nuts with that question.

Why does there have to be an objective? Do the things you enjoy doing. Sometimes a bit of grind is enjoyable, sometimes it's necessary to afford to live.

I think of everything as things to pass the time until I die. If you spend a lot of time on things that you don't enjoy and they aren't a path to more enjoyable past times then reevaluate. Work less and hobby more and remember, the goal is not to end up with all the money, the goal is to maximize your time spent doing enjoyable activities.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#119
I'm 47. After worrying a lot about this, I came to the conclusion that the objective should be to be comfortable and that's it. If you have a roof over your head, can save some money and are able to travel and have fun, you've made it. Everything else is basically bullshit.

Also, don't create unnecessary problems for yourself - keep it simple. Don't have kids if you don't want to. Don't buy a car if you don't need it. Don't buy a huge house if all your need is 2 bedrooms. In other words, don't measure your success by external metrics.

Re: Ask HN: What are we even chasing?

#120
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The value of family is one of those things that's a huge blind spot for "intellectual-types", but completely obvious to most normal people over the age of 25. It's too easy to think you're above it all, that your intelligence means you must have a higher calling, or that you're Not Like Other People. But it's not true. It takes humility to acknowledge that you're behind the curve in figuring this out, but better to l…

Hmm. I don't think I am above anything or that I have any sort of higher calling. But I have 0 desire to start a family. I just do what I like to do and have fun doing it and that all seems to work out pretty great for me.

You absolutely don’t have to or should never feel like that’s the only true option for fulfilment. That’s not the only higher calling there is. It’s just a popular one.
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