Wait -- there are podcasts you just can't listen to if you don't have an Apple device? That's beyond absurd.
Technically you can listen to them using iTunes for Windows, but it's still absurd. It's a closed system, which podcasting should not be.
The audacity of Apple Podcasts
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#83It seems bizarre to me that any serious podcast would fail to retain:
- Their own backups of their master audio
- Separate uploads to competing services with significant market share (e.g. Spotify)
It's not really surprising that Apple DRM-locks the audio files pulled from their podcast service. They should have messaged that better, but Apple has DRM locked everything coming from their music services for a very long time.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Author here. > If you're charging a subscription fee The DRM applies even if you charge no fee. > why would you expect Apple to make it available to competing podcast apps Because every single other podcast hosting service does, with the exception of folks that signed a contract with Spotify. > If you post something on TikTok it doesn't show up on people's Facebook feeds. It can, actually. You can post a link. If I u…
> If I upload a podcast to Apple, it's physically inaccessible unless you have a Mac or an iOS device. Unless I am misunderstanding your claim, this is not true. You can listen to Apple Podcasts using iTunes for Windows. You can also listen to them on Android. But dealing with it on Android is indeed annoying, because it requires downloading podcasts in itunes on your desktop, and then manually transferring them to y…
You can also listen to it on the Apple Podcasts website, e.g. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily/id1200361736...
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#85Would love to see the whiteboards at Apple showing all the flow chart strategies to trap people with DRM.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you're charging a subscription fee then it makes sense that the podcast lives in a walled DRM'ed garden No, it absolutely does not. In the same way it doesn't make any sense to have DRM on music or anything else I pay for. I'm a paying customer, why should my experience and the product I'm paying for literally be worse then the people who pirate it? This thinking is straight out of the 90s/00s RIAA playbook that…
So you think Apple should host podcasts for free out of the goodness of their heart? Apple's a business, not a charity/non-profit. Podcast hosting for $20/year is a huge bargain. Libsyn's cheapest plan is $5/month with limits on storage. Add in the fact that you're published by one of the largest podcast directories on earth and the value is immense.
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Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts
#87Without understanding DRM that well, I’m wondering if there are analog workarounds. You can’t encrypt a sound wave between the speaker and the eardrum.
You can absolutely record the sound in realtime, but you're also losing fidelity in that recording. It's obviously not as bad as not having the audio at all, but if you're trying to capture it to upload to another provider then the experience your 2nd-provider audience gets is not as good as the 1st(Apple)-provider.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Author here. > If you're charging a subscription fee The DRM applies even if you charge no fee. > why would you expect Apple to make it available to competing podcast apps Because every single other podcast hosting service does, with the exception of folks that signed a contract with Spotify. > If you post something on TikTok it doesn't show up on people's Facebook feeds. It can, actually. You can post a link. If I u…
> If I upload a podcast to Apple, it's physically inaccessible unless you have a Mac or an iOS device. Unless I am misunderstanding your claim, this is not true. You can listen to Apple Podcasts using iTunes for Windows. You can also listen to them on Android. But dealing with it on Android is indeed annoying, because it requires downloading podcasts in itunes on your desktop, and then manually transferring them to y…
> requires downloading podcasts in itunes on your desktop, and then manually transferring them to your Android phone after finding the locally stored files.
TFA says they're DRMed, are they still readable on a random android client just by moving the files ?
Re: The audacity of Apple Podcasts
#89It seems bizarre to me that any serious podcast would fail to retain: - Their own backups of their master audio - Separate uploads to competing services with significant market share (e.g. Spotify) It's not really surprising that Apple DRM-locks the audio files pulled from their podcast service. They should have messaged that better, but Apple has DRM locked everything coming from their music services for a very long…
I think the author's point would be that Apple is doing this to non-serious or not-serious-yet podcasters.
Let he who is without a data loss event cast the first "their own backups" stone.
Given that nobody else DRMs podcast audio, this is deeply surprising.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a bit out of the loop but wouldn't hosts have the original source material that they uploaded? Similar to how users have the source images/videos to whatever they upload to TikTok and Instagram? I suspect neither offer an export either. Additionally, the author complains that an Apple Podcast user has to go through the app (and all its restrictions), but again, not that different from Instagram posts. As a user,…
Author here. > wouldn't hosts have the original source material that they uploaded As far as I'm aware, Apple never resurfaces the audio after it's uploaded, even in your dashboard. Even if they did, making someone manually download and reupload every asset for potentially hundreds of episodes is sadistic. Moreover, you physically can't leave, because your listeners won't follow you to your new hosting service. > The…
>Moreover, you physically can't leave, because your listeners won't follow you to your new hosting service.
This is patently not true. I've had to do this after a podcast host had an outage and our followers moved over because we posted on social that there was a new feed. Joe Rogan's followers moved to Spotify just fine after he removed all other traces of his show.
It's not great but you're literally getting what you pay for.