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Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by moonchrome »

wildrhythms wrote: post #189
Jolter wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about it seems “not kids friendly” to you? I don’t see the problem.

'On your kitchen' is not something most English speakers would say; they would say 'in your kitchen'. Otherwise it seems like the butter is 'on top of' the kitchen, like on the roof. And instead of 'your kitchen' it would be 'the kitchen', since the story takes place at the house of the characters in the story and not the reader's house. Also usually children's books are much more descriptive: "Butter went everywhere…

The wording part is my fault - I didn't think about on vs in, in my mind it would be on the walls and stuff / kitchen is the insides of the room - but I can see how that's maybe not appropriate.

The exact quote is :

>But then she noticed something even stranger - her kitchen was covered in a thick layer of butter.

vs

>Butter went everywhere! On the ceiling, on the floor, on the refrigerator, on the toaster

Your phrasing sounds like something I'd read to my son and I could see him repeating all the items and adding some of his own.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by grugagag »

theden wrote: post #194

I also ain't a big fan of the idea, a few thoughts * (Currently) Most AI generated images have an aesthetic to them, so it's easy to spot sometimes. Typically low-res, smeared details, bad hands/body horror. This may improve over time, but I don't know how I'd feel ethically (both morally and in work/effort) leaning so hard on AI. * For me at least, as soon as I learn something creative is completely (or mostly) AI g…

“Room on a broom” is a popular kids book. I wonder if AI could match up to it

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by mechagodzilla »

theden wrote: post #194

I also ain't a big fan of the idea, a few thoughts * (Currently) Most AI generated images have an aesthetic to them, so it's easy to spot sometimes. Typically low-res, smeared details, bad hands/body horror. This may improve over time, but I don't know how I'd feel ethically (both morally and in work/effort) leaning so hard on AI. * For me at least, as soon as I learn something creative is completely (or mostly) AI g…

All of the AI generated stuff reminds me of this: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2016/08/17/infinite-and-i...

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by tomp »

makoto12 wrote: post #195
tomp wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At best you could claim “pirated”, definitely not “stolen”. IMO piracy should be morally encouraged

Do you think it's moral for a big corporation to profit on pirating works from small artists?

For-profit piracy is questionable (there’s pros and cons, it could unleash a ton of creativity) but what we’re discussing here is non-profit, personal use piracy.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by okamiueru »

biztos wrote: post #196

It seems the AI doesn't know the difference between a hedgehog and a porcupine. (A quick check shows Stable Diffusion at least knows the two animals on a high level.) Leaving aside the creepiness factor, I wonder what confusion will be sown in young minds by the inevitable onslaught of machine-generated children's content.

> stable diffusion

A bit tongue in cheek. But, that would be like saying a pencil knows the difference between them.

Which model in particular? 1.5, 2.1?

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by driscoll42 »

theden wrote: post #194

I also ain't a big fan of the idea, a few thoughts * (Currently) Most AI generated images have an aesthetic to them, so it's easy to spot sometimes. Typically low-res, smeared details, bad hands/body horror. This may improve over time, but I don't know how I'd feel ethically (both morally and in work/effort) leaning so hard on AI. * For me at least, as soon as I learn something creative is completely (or mostly) AI g…

Really? This may be AI generated to an extent, but it's also showing that the author and friends worked together and put together a labor of fun and love for a pair of friends. That'll have more meaning to that family than a random kid's book.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by legutierr »

scrollaway wrote: post #177
legutierr wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who wrote the Photoshop source code were paid for their contributions with full consent that their work would be included in the product and sold for a profit by Adobe. The artists whose work was fed into these systems did not consent, nor were they paid for their contribution. In fact, I have seen a few reports of people using these systems to generate lookalike artworks intended to resemble the work of s…

Be real, copyright/attribution is only one complaint, a tiny part of the sudden hatred against AI art/creativity. When somebody brings up the invention of photoshop, they're not trying to disprove a point about paying salaries to the devs, and I am sure you knew that.

No, your perspective on this is all wrong. The outrage about AI art is not about how it empowers its users.

Rather, the problem is that these systems only exists today because of the involuntary contributions of the very same people who are likely to be put out of business.

It really is about the how the contributors to these systems are being treated. The coders that contributed to Photoshop are analogous to the artists whose work was used to train these models. The difference between them is that the former gave their consent to the contribution, and the latter did not.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by jxf »

social_quotient wrote: post #171
makoto12 wrote: post #141

I hate this so very much. Automating creativity is so gross. Never mind the fact that these models are trained on stolen artwork and texts.

Don't take this as a trolling question, but I can't help but wonder if this sentiment towards AI generated art and creativity is similar to how a chef might feel about shrink wrapped frozen food factories. Just like how a frozen meal can be thrown in the microwave and still be considered a meal, AI generated art can still be considered creative and beautiful. But, as we all know, the timing and execution to properly…

I think there are important differences between this situation and your chef/frozen food analogy that cause it to break down:

* A digital image is permanent. A meal, by design, is consumed and has a very specific lifespan.

* A digital image is trivial to duplicate and consume again. A meal can be very hard to duplicate (and may even require another chef, or food scientists). No two people can consume exactly the same meal.

* A digital image is not required to survival. Regular intake of food and water is (at least for humans).

and so on.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by grugagag »

makoto12 wrote: post #141

I hate this so very much. Automating creativity is so gross. Never mind the fact that these models are trained on stolen artwork and texts.

Did we really NEED automation for writing kids books?

And for whoever is saying not automating these is gatekeeping let me ask you gatekeeping from what? You could write a kids book yourself without AI if you put your mind to it. It’s a super easy feat.

Can we strive to automate more boring stuff such as scrum meetings, filling out forms and paperwork in general?

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Post by oneoff786 »

thih9 wrote: post #127
jamessb wrote: post #106

The prompt [1] didn't fully transfer to the generated story. This is an important part of the prompt: > she had too much butter. Because of that, things got slippery. > Until finally she opened the first ever butter theme park. But the generated story doesn't say that the layer of butter in the kitchen was slippery, or explain that butter in general is slippery (and hence could create "slippery slides"), which make t…

Then again, “things got slippery” can be used metaphorically; and that meaning did appear in the story (mischievous Sparkles).

Figuratively. Not metaphorically.
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