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1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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The study apparently only involved male participants. The control group consists of 6, the two treatment groups of 10 and 9 participants. The total N of the study is 25 participants. They conduct a one-way ANOVA on the interaction of time and treatment group indicators. I conclude that the study is woefully underpowered. I do not trust the apparent significance of their results.

Sports science is probably the most unintentionally hilarious branch of statistics.

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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Exercise doesn't result in changes in body mass (weight loss), unless accompanied with a diet. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/28/study-reveal... .

I think it’s safe to assume that many inactive people start to exercise because they believe it will help them lose weight, however

I find changing diet much easier when I'm also workig to get into shape at the same time.

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Yes it can. I had an injury that prevented me from cycling for over a year and slowly gained weight. It all came off after resuming a normal routine without dietary changes.

> It all came off after resuming a normal routine without dietary changes. well, doh, if you eat the same and use less you will gain mass. It's not because (lack of) excercise, it's because diet not fitting lifestyle Excercises help in burning more calories so you can actually eat some tasty food from time to time without getting fatter and not going crazy from eating only low calorie stuff and that's about the only…

I think what the parent meant by "no dietary changes" is that they didn't have to exercise any special discipline over their diet.

If I'm exercising regularly with sufficient intensity my appetite will go up, yes, but I still lose weight. For me, when training, keeping weight on is the dietary challenge. It's hard to eat enough!

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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If you're completely out of shape, going at HIIT level intensity is also risky. Better to build some kind of baseline before jumping into the deep end.

It is not risky but it is hard and I rather do low intensity running 60 minutes than 8 minutes HIIT.

It is risky. People push themselves too hard to keep up and end up with rabdo. (Edit: I was thinking more of a normal HIIT class, not the 1 minute one)

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In personal experience as a dedicated rock climber (traveling full time for half of the last 15 years), I can easily conclude that bursts of intense exercise accomplish a lot more for health and fitness than prolonged, more gentle workouts. Intensity readily builds muscle mass and coordinates muscle fibers, while fostering feelings of clarity and joy. It’s just the easier pathway to “being fit.” Climbers train for in…

Isn't this just a different thing? Bouldering builds peak strength, not really intensity in the sense it's meant here? Max hangs do not translate to watts you can do for a minute on a bike, right?

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

"SIT involved 3x20-second 'all-out' cycle sprints (~500W) interspersed with 2 minutes of cycling at 50W, whereas MICT involved 45 minutes of continuous cycling at ~70% maximal heart rate (~110W). Both protocols involved a 2-minute warm-up and 3-minute cool-down at 50W."

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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The fact that 1 minute of high intensity exercise (in 10 minutes of lower-intensity stuff) is as good as 50 minutes of moderate-intensity training does really put things into perspective. What I wonder now is - what if you combine both? What if you do 50 minutes of moderate exercise but intersperse that with that same 1 minute of all-out sprints? Is there a bigger benefit, or is it inconsequential? And another questi…

It's probably far more beneficial to save the max effort for the very end. Fatigue and lactic acid concentration work in your favor that way

It depends. While your total work done might be higher like that, training for longer with the lactic in your muscles also has some benefits. Doing the intensity earlier also increases your heart rate earlier, and it will probably remain higher throughout, which can be a good thing if your goal is to work it.

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

Coming back from out of shape with intensive exercise doesn't sound good to me. I often start with cycling for 25km x 3 days. Walk 10 km x 2 days rest 2 days. Something like this and then start to run / basket ball / swimming etc.

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

I'm just imagining the scene in There's Something About Mary.

"No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6."

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

Exercise doesn't result in changes in body mass (weight loss), unless accompanied with a diet. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/28/study-reveal... .

This is nonsense. Try running 70 miles a week on the same diet and see if you weight the same after a few months.
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