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1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

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#21
Oh good, another of the weekly studies that finds having sedentary people do a light exercise regimen of any kind sees their fitness improve just as others doing light exercise.

Can't wait for the meta study of "it doesn't really matter what you do".

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#22

As I understand it the body has different energy systems- one that is aerobic and takes hours over months and years to train and anaerobic that all out short efforts can train. Everything in between these two is arguably time wasted. I think the title here is misleading and looking at another comment it’s not what the paper says, “it improved insulin sensitivity and other indices of cardio-metabolic health”.

> Everything in between these two is arguably time wasted.

This is if we're myopically focusing on cardiovascular and metabolic outcomes.

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

#23
It's 8 minutes, not one minute

The people in the study were out of shape to start with

The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content"

No change in body mass

In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over 12 weeks

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#24
The study apparently only involved male participants. The control group consists of 6, the two treatment groups of 10 and 9 participants. The total N of the study is 25 participants. They conduct a one-way ANOVA on the interaction of time and treatment group indicators. I conclude that the study is woefully underpowered. I do not trust the apparent significance of their results.

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#25
As others below have pointed out, the study specifically targets certain markers, and these markers do not encompass "fitness" as we would expect.

I learnt the lesson a long time ago that you need to train long and low as well as short and hard, so I'd like to repost this article from Mark Twight (if anybody has a better - or more original, link, please feel free to post it): https://equipesolitaire.com/blogs/discourse/85824260-no-free...

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

#26

How do they define fitness? It seems their definition is quite narrow. I cycle, and basically in the winter I do shorter rides more often to hit the same overall distance as I would in the summer. It's just not enjoyable for me dealing with awful road conditions and freezing hands and feet. E.g. in winter I'll do four or five 40 km rides per week, but in summer I do two or three 40 km rides and one 100+ km ride per w…

I don't think this is saying 1 minute of high-intensity sprints is better than all other exercise, if you're doing multiple 40+ km bike rides per week you're probably not the intended audience for this type of exercise. However, I do think it is fair to use the word "fitness" as short-hand for what they were measuring because the below (from the "Results" in the Abstract linked) is a bit of a mouthful and doesn't neatly fit in the title:

" Peak oxygen uptake increased after training by 19% in both groups (SIT: 32±7 to 38±8; MICT: 34±6 to 40±8ml/kg/min; p<0.001 for both). Insulin sensitivity index (CSI), determined by intravenous glucose tolerance tests performed before and 72 hours after training, increased similarly after SIT (4.9±2.5 to 7.5±4.7, p = 0.002) and MICT (5.0±3.3 to 6.7±5.0 x 10-4 min-1 [μU/mL]-1, p = 0.013) (p<0.05). Skeletal muscle mitochondrial content also increased similarly after SIT and MICT, as primarily reflected by the maximal activity of citrate synthase (CS; P<0.001). The corresponding changes in the control group were small for VO2peak (p = 0.99), CSI (p = 0.63) and CS (p = 0.97). "

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

#27

It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

I think it was 10 minutes in total:

2min warmup

20sec max effort

2min recovery

20sec max effort

2min recovery

20sec max effort

3min cooldown

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

#29
All these many studies about 1 minute exercise don’t seem to take into account how long that fitness will last, and how likely you are to get injured.

I started running about a year ago and the first thing you have to learn is there’s a bunch of body systems you need to improve - heart, ability to use oxygen, removal of lactic acid, strengthening your body so you don’t get injured and can therefore train continuously. Probably others.

And they all are best adapted by training at different speeds and intensities. So you do some fast stuff and some _really_ slow stuff and some in the middle stuff.

High intensity is definitely great exercise. It definitely does something that slow stuff doesn’t. But it doesn’t mean you should _only_ do high intensity.

Re: 1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness as much as 3x aerobics (2016)

#30

It's 8 minutes, not one minute The people in the study were out of shape to start with The improved measures were insulin sensitivity index, peak oxygen uptake, and "skeletal muscle mitochondrial content" No change in body mass In conclusion, if you're out of shape, you can improve a limited number of fitness measures just as much doing 3x8 minutes of higher intensity exercise as much 3×45m less intense exercise over…

Exercise doesn't result in changes in body mass (weight loss), unless accompanied with a diet.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/28/study-reveal....

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