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Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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I hate to be the contrarian voice, but I really don't like where things are headed with these types of assistive tools. I like the idea of using it partially to help complement some effort that you've done yourself, but the idea that you're using both an LLM to produce the story and a diffusion model to produce the pictures makes the entire piece of work almost devoid of individual effort. Using them to produce a pri…

I think it’s great. We should then be able to develop systems which separate the wheat from the chaff. And that is progress.

You mean advertising?

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

#73

I did something similar for my younger daughter using MagicStory[1] (not mine). I have told her the story quite a few times at her bed time. She has shown it to her teacher and her friends are "jealous." It has her pictures, kinda morphed like a princess and stuff. Edit: Clarifications. 1. https://magicstory.ai

Hey! Maker of https://magicstory.ai here! Super glad to hear your daughter loved it :) we're pushing updates to improve the stories and definitely take privacy seriously - right now all images get deleted once your characters model is trained.

Also planning to have stock characters so you can make stories without uploading images since I get that's definitely a concern for most parents. Would love any other feedback on how to improve the experience!

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely agree. People really don't understand where this is going. It's not like society lacks mediocre mid-brow content as it is. LLM's and diffusion models reduce the cost of production to basically zero, and we now have an endless supply mediocre content. Extend it out a few 10x improvements, and we get an endless stream of so-so Netflix shows produced with zero effort. Basically WALL-E made real.

It doesn't look to me like the cost of production was zero and the content really wasn't bad. For anyone who didn't read to the end, the author (operator?) explains his process: > I typed a series of prompts to ChatGPT to get it to write me a story with the following plot: > Once upon a time there was porcupine. Every day, she baked a loaf of bread. One day the loaf disappeared. Because of that, she had too much butt…

> I doubt it was a trivial endeavor.

Per authors comments above, it was indeed a trivial endeavor: a few hours to tweak the prompts and a few hours to make the site.

Compare to the most basic children’s book, which would take at least 10 hours to illustrate for a professional (10 picture times one hour per picture).

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

#76

I hate to be the contrarian voice, but I really don't like where things are headed with these types of assistive tools. I like the idea of using it partially to help complement some effort that you've done yourself, but the idea that you're using both an LLM to produce the story and a diffusion model to produce the pictures makes the entire piece of work almost devoid of individual effort. Using them to produce a pri…

Thank you for saying that. The tech is really cool but it gives utterly untalented storytellers the tools to inflict really bad content on the world. The insipid and pointless plot of this one is a case in point. (I do admire the OP’s get-something-done adventurous spirit of trying out the tech and making something, kudos, but not their artistic sensibilities on this one unfortunately.) At the same time it will allow others to create fantastic stuff. We are going to need some better filters.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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post #10

I did something similar for my younger daughter using MagicStory[1] (not mine). I have told her the story quite a few times at her bed time. She has shown it to her teacher and her friends are "jealous." It has her pictures, kinda morphed like a princess and stuff. Edit: Clarifications. 1. https://magicstory.ai

These look amazing! Did you build MagicStory?

I did :)

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

#78
I don't know how to think about this:

On one side, it might be nice to create stories that fit a specific want/desire for what a child might need. We might even go for the concept of a segment of one kind of story.

On the other hand, I am picky with the stories I read to my child. I see stories I read as education. They transmit some non-conscious cultural things about being human, about handling this reality and the world.

For me the books I read to my kid are the future equivalent of people telling stories around the fire to transmit some necessary and vital knowledge thousands of years ago. I believe (without a scientific ) they are shaping both my child how my child sees the world (through words construct and imagination) and my child value system.

Of course, I am trying to expose him to various stories and books as I am also not sure what I think is important is actually important for his life.

But I am a bit reluctant/skeptical whenever I buy a book launched recently. I am not 100% sure if the author just wrote a story because they want to sell something, and it does not have any other meaning. Don't get me wrong, it is ok to just buy a book because it looks nice, even if it is shallow. But there are so many books that I don't want all the books to be the same.

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

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Sorry, but the story is missing a very important ingredient for a kids book: I can not identify any deeper moral or social or any idea.

While stories "just for fun" have of course a right to exist, it is very questionable to fill your kids brain solely with random, empty, meaningless fun stories.

Stories for kids are an important part of helping to build a moral compass for the world. Besides "getting rich quick with fun products" I see no value transported in that story.

Empty stories will produce empty humans.

There is more to a good story than "something happens" and "nice pictures".

Re: Show HN: I “wrote” a kid's book with ChatGPT and Midjourney

#80

I hate to be the contrarian voice, but I really don't like where things are headed with these types of assistive tools. I like the idea of using it partially to help complement some effort that you've done yourself, but the idea that you're using both an LLM to produce the story and a diffusion model to produce the pictures makes the entire piece of work almost devoid of individual effort. Using them to produce a pri…

Is it not the same for all new technologies?

Books were expensive and locked away in monasteries for quite a while. Church being scared of "reading" being spread as a technology.

Steam-powered trains were feared because of their speed. Cars... Planes... Etc

Television the drug of a nation... Now its the Internet. I'm sure radio was just as addictive and hated by parents as television.

Agree also that we'll have a lot more chaff but the chaff began the day our ancestors chiseled the first symbols into rock and gave us writing.

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