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Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

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I'm a recovering nitrous oxide addict so this is interesting, but people should proceed with caution. I didn't know laughing gas could be addictive for some people until it was too late. In the film Cider House Rules, Michael Caine plays a doctor addicted to ether for sleep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cider_House_Rules_(film) Google result: Is chloroform stronger than ether? Fluothane and chloroform produced si…

I'm sure you know but PSA for those that don't: N2O is practically the only "safe" inhalant. Others, like gasoline, computer duster, urinal pucks, etc. have a risk of causing spontaneous heart attacks even in young healthy users. N2O's main physical risk is B12 deficiency, or asphyxiating if you use a mask.

In addition to the risk of sudden death, even on the first use, they cause permanent brain damage with each use and regular use will reduce you to a gibbering shell of yourself from which you cannot recover -- and then you'll probably die. Recreational use is incredibly dangerous and this is one category that you should probably put into the "never use" group. Much worse than any common recreational drugs, including the ones usually demonized by society such as heroin.

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

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Chloroform is great for extractions (if you don't care about the environment) because it sinks to the bottom of a sep funnel, but the thing about it being a knockout gas or sleep aid is complete BS. Based on an unpublished study of about 4 degenerate chemistry undergrads: - It PROBABLY takes several minutes of inhalation through a saturated rag to induce full loss of consciousness, although shorter times do produce n…

> Join us for our continued lecture series, covering topics such as Please share/blog these! I too have several degenerate chemistry undergrad stories. > The poor efficacy of DMSO in assisting drug translocation through skin Yep. During one particularly sleep-deprived finals week, and after recently learning about DMSO's transdermal transportation abilities, my friend and I tried making caffeine skin patches. It work…

> But my lab manager did walk in at one point and immediately recoiled from the fumes (which we were nose-deaf to at that point).

Reminds me of NileRed's attempts to create enormously stinky substances [1][2]. In one of the videos he said he's basically smell-blind.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_eYLWLsWPg

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmAG8-V_WQY

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

#134

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I'm not offended by the volume he's producing, just the act of doing low value chemistry work at home making something gross, it will get repeated by less capable viewers in uncontrolled environments. On the other hand, I always thought things like anarchist cookbook and erowid type stuff is great for knowledge sharing. I don't think there should be a monopoly on knowing how to do stuff but this is different, maybe t…

> On the other hand, I always thought things like anarchist cookbook and erowid type stuff is great for knowledge sharing. I recently watched YouTube channel where a guy made phenethylamine from bitter almond oil (benzaldehyde) via the P2NP route. other videos featured anthranilic acid, steam distillation of sassafras, and GBL. I'm astounded he hasn't been banned or raided, but it was massively cool seeing him run th…

bb.expert also has complete drug synthesis procedures up too!

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

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> …it will get repeated by less capable viewers in uncontrolled environments. Maybe. I dunno, I’ve been active in underground chemistry forums for 15 years at this point, and the thing it drove home to me is that 99.9% of the people on there are armchair chemists, and only a tiny fraction actually do any home chemistry. It’s all exciting to read about and watch, but for the most part people steer clear (for sane, goo…

I'm hoping that with mushrooms getting legalized here soon, we're on the path to where eventually I could get a hobby license to synthesize psychedelics on a small scale, the way some people brew beer for fun. I'm in the same boat as you I think. I got into ochem as a teenager reading BL and thee Hive, but never did anything with it other than read and fantasize. if it were legal I'd do it in a heartbeat, it's just n…

I did a BSc in Chem/Maths, and I’ve done certain synthesis ahem “experiment at home. But most of the really interesting novel ones I’ve wanted to try require more glassware and equipment than I can be bothered to acquire, even ignoring the legality aspect. Where I live it’s illegal to have quite a lot of glassware lol

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

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> a type of frog has 'anti-freeze' in it's makeup so it can freeze and re-thaw Nit: it can't actually recover from freezing solid. It just has lowered the freezing point of the remaining liquid to below the temperatures it's going to encounter.

Thanks, you provoked me to look it up in more detail, and we're both oversimplifying, and it's even wilder than I thought. From [0]: >> On an organismal level, they are completely frozen to death — their heart stops beating and breathing ceases. Image via Facebook >> The frog’s death-defying trick actually comes down to one simple factor: nucleating proteins. When the frog’s skin begins to freeze, these proteins caus…

They also froze hamsters and revived them with a microwave

https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

#137

I decided to open the Wikipedia page for Chloroform while this video played and thought it was interesting that the idea that criminals can immediately knock someone out with a chloroform soaked rag is really a work of fiction. Not that it couldn't be done, but that it would probably take minutes and not just a few seconds.

Not to mention health risks related to chloroform: https://dhss.delaware.gov/dph/files/chloroformfaq.pdf

It used to be a minor ingredient in some brands of well-advertised toothpaste.

Had a taste like no other.

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

#138

I'm a recovering nitrous oxide addict so this is interesting, but people should proceed with caution. I didn't know laughing gas could be addictive for some people until it was too late. In the film Cider House Rules, Michael Caine plays a doctor addicted to ether for sleep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cider_House_Rules_(film) Google result: Is chloroform stronger than ether? Fluothane and chloroform produced si…

I'm sure you know but PSA for those that don't: N2O is practically the only "safe" inhalant. Others, like gasoline, computer duster, urinal pucks, etc. have a risk of causing spontaneous heart attacks even in young healthy users. N2O's main physical risk is B12 deficiency, or asphyxiating if you use a mask.

u..u..urinal puck as a drug ?

Re: Making chloroform so I can sleep better at night [video]

#139
post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> …it will get repeated by less capable viewers in uncontrolled environments. Maybe. I dunno, I’ve been active in underground chemistry forums for 15 years at this point, and the thing it drove home to me is that 99.9% of the people on there are armchair chemists, and only a tiny fraction actually do any home chemistry. It’s all exciting to read about and watch, but for the most part people steer clear (for sane, goo…

I run a fairly well-known organic chemistry website. Occasionally I receive notes from amateur chemists who want advice on various aspects of lab prep. Sometimes they are amusing, like getting late night calls from amateur CBD chemists. Other times they are scary. Two of my correspondents turned out to be so completely in over their heads there was no helping them. One guy, a former electrical engineer, was making el…

> One guy, a former electrical engineer,

I noticed it's often the engineers that are in over their head, more than regular people

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