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Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

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Curious, based on actual evidence, is there any reason to believe the pilot didn’t exit the plane prior to it crashing?

what, like he somehow smuggled a parachute onboard and then survived a late-night ditch into the middle of the ocean?

Might be wrong, but I had heard it was possible to enter a pre planed flight path. Plane did a turn back over land before heading out to sea.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#52

"Before Fariq can attempt to get back into the cockpit, Zaharie reaches up and flips the pressurization switch, cutting off bleed air to the cabin. The airplane rapidly begins to depressurize." I really want to believe that a single switch doesn't control whether people in the back of the plane can breather or not...

You might want to learn about Helios Airways Flight 522 crash

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#53

Curious, based on actual evidence, is there any reason to believe the pilot didn’t exit the plane prior to it crashing?

what, like he somehow smuggled a parachute onboard and then survived a late-night ditch into the middle of the ocean?

More like he asphyxiated everyone on the plane, including the rich heiress with her priceless jewelry and millions in cash, flew over a known location where he had previously towed a get-away boat, stole all of the other valuables on the plane, and skydived into the perfect crime.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#54
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It's about that easy. Of course, masks are a-gonna drop, and flight attendants are going to put on portable oxygen bottles... and of course the crew should descend. But the whole plane architecture is built on the idea that you're trusting the people in the front with everyone's lives.

I think the point being that accidentally hitting this switch is probably of some concern.

After a few crashes that bad UX played a part in, I'm reasonably confident that in a modern aircraft that switch is somewhere hard to press accidentally.

(E.g., fuel selector switches that can enter an unexpected state while looking like they're in the correct state, take-off/go-around switches that could be triggered by a first officer wearing a watch reaching for the speed brake lever, attitude indicators with ambiguous backgrounds, three-pointer/drum-pointer/counter-pointer altimeters)

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#55
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Can someone TL;DR this please?

They never found the plane. Most likely the lead pilot crashed it intentionally, but we don't really know. The person writing this blog post is more certain about that than the Malaysian authorities, but bloggers are allowed to speculate more than government commissions. There's some neat math people used to try and find the plane that gets alluded to, but not explained in depth, and the post is a reasonable summary,…

And hey if we can’t trust random people on the internet, who can we trust? :)

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#56
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Except they made this up and he never flew that route, on his simulator or otherwise.

Huh? The article has " In 2014, a leaked Malaysian police report revealed that among Zaharie’s saved flight simulator sessions was a very odd route which ran up the Strait of Malacca, turned south after passing Sumatra, and then flew straight down into the Southern Indian Ocean before terminating in the vicinity of the seventh arc. Not only did the track resemble MH370’s actual flight path, it also contained a number…

They found bits from random savefiles and constructed something vaguely resembling a simulator route out of it. If even that. “Leak“—the Malaysians are not good faith players in this.

Really, I can only point to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34509899t. Maybe look into the MS Estonia sinking, the cover-up (of the unfortunate results of a spy game) is very obvious there.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#57

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Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun

Operational Testing Lead Quality Assurance Tester El Pollo Hermano

Mr. Fring would like to see you in his office. Now.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun

Operational Testing Lead Quality Assurance Tester El Pollo Hermano

Less fun than Operational Testing Lead Quality Assurance Tester Los Pollo Hermanos

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#59
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Feel like if we believe this was a pilot suicide then it would also be important to try to address that - though I'm not sure how unless we fully automated (and people liked that). There has been a German and Chinese flight since with 100+ fatalities where this happened. Given how few crashes there are on commercial flights its one of the biggest risk factors today.

Risk has to be put in context. It's one of the biggest risks, where all the risks are fantastically low against number of flights and passenger/miles. All airline risks are lower than driving. I would have said the 787 lithium battery risk was more concerning personally. Or the 737 Max problem.

In ‘97, there was SilkAir 185. NTSB was fairly certain that was pilot suicide. Another one was EgyptAir 990 in ‘99.

In terms of fatalities and hull losses, pilot suicide is a much larger risk than the 737 Max. It’s made worse by outdated FAA rules that would have pilots grounded for seeking treatment.

Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)

#60

According to experts hired by NBC news, the audio between the pilots and ATC were edited: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-re... For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to be widely discussed.

edited for brevity. You can't edit the recordings of the black box but you could certainly doctor recordings from either side. It mentions that in the article that it doesn't mean anything nefarious but rather just a matter of fact. If they were edited before release, its probably to cut out silence or something. I wouldn't go conspiracy theory here.

Audio is super cheap, and easy to index. Releasing it all has zero downside yet enables better investigation. Even things like dead-air pops/hums could potentially offer clues. (And an unbroken timeline is important in and of itself.)

Someone once reconstructed an entire helicopter's location telemetry just from the dead-air hum recorded by a video camera. Don't underestimate the value of any piece of information. It's a failure if there's needless withholding.

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