Read Florence de Changy’s The Disappearing Act if you want a rough idea what actually happened.
Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
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Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#42Fascinating article. I had a chuckle at this excerpt: >The Malaysian investigators did look into whether the cargo could have started a fire, noting that it consisted mainly of ripe mangosteen fruits along with a small number of lithium batteries. Extensive attempts by the investigators to get mangosteen juice to react with the batteries and trigger a fire were unsuccessful. I'm sure plenty of people here have spent…
Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing.
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#43Curious, based on actual evidence, is there any reason to believe the pilot didn’t exit the plane prior to it crashing?
what, like he somehow smuggled a parachute onboard and then survived a late-night ditch into the middle of the ocean?
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#44According to experts hired by NBC news, the audio between the pilots and ATC were edited: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-re... For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to be widely discussed.
edited for brevity. You can't edit the recordings of the black box but you could certainly doctor recordings from either side. It mentions that in the article that it doesn't mean anything nefarious but rather just a matter of fact. If they were edited before release, its probably to cut out silence or something. I wouldn't go conspiracy theory here.
Edits should be made clear upon release of the audio recording. The investigation is either incompetent or corrupt if it is not being forthcoming about edits to information released to the public.
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#45According to experts hired by NBC news, the audio between the pilots and ATC were edited: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-re... For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to be widely discussed.
edited for brevity. You can't edit the recordings of the black box but you could certainly doctor recordings from either side. It mentions that in the article that it doesn't mean anything nefarious but rather just a matter of fact. If they were edited before release, its probably to cut out silence or something. I wouldn't go conspiracy theory here.
If you released something of that importance and edited beforehand, you'd probably say so and release the unedited version as well, wouldn't you?
Sometimes I wonder whether some officials are trolling the conspiracy theory people, by editing something without even changing anything, just so people can freak out over it. Or give overlay specific denials just so people go "aha, they only said they never negotiated with Aliens from Mars, not that they didn't meet Aliens from Mars, nor that they didn't negotiate with Aliens from Pluto".
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#46Relevant book (open access):
Bayesian Methods in the Search for MH370
Authors: Sam Davey , Neil Gordon , Ian Holland , Mark Rutten , Jason Williams
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#47Just noticing the medium author, this guy posts fantastic breakdowns of plane crashes on r/catastrophicfailure Have to say the simulator part makes me lean heavily towards the pilot crashing it purposefully, from the article - "The most widely reported piece of evidence tying Zaharie to the disappearance was a course he had charted on his home flight simulator about a month before the crash. Zaharie had a number of h…
'Black box' is referring to the lack of visibility inside the box and to the fact that you can't tamper with it, what goes in stays in.
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The part where he had flown the route in a simulator is compelling as well. What a long article though
Except they made this up and he never flew that route, on his simulator or otherwise.
Huh? The article has "In 2014, a leaked Malaysian police report revealed that among Zaharie’s saved flight simulator sessions was a very odd route which ran up the Strait of Malacca, turned south after passing Sumatra, and then flew straight down into the Southern Indian Ocean before terminating in the vicinity of the seventh arc. Not only did the track resemble MH370’s actual flight path, it also contained a number of other intriguing details. For example, the track wasn’t really a track — rather, it was a series of brief clips lasting no more than a few seconds each, indicating that Zaharie had programmed it in advance then skipped along it to various points without actually playing through the entire hours-long flight. Furthermore, although initial reports indicated that the track had been intentionally saved by the user, later analysis showed that it was kept only in the system files, and certainly was not meant to be found. Was this a dry run? It seems too odd to be a coincidence." -- what part of that do you disagree with?
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#49According to experts hired by NBC news, the audio between the pilots and ATC were edited: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-re... For whatever reason, this doesn't seem to be widely discussed.
edited for brevity. You can't edit the recordings of the black box but you could certainly doctor recordings from either side. It mentions that in the article that it doesn't mean anything nefarious but rather just a matter of fact. If they were edited before release, its probably to cut out silence or something. I wouldn't go conspiracy theory here.
Did you read the article? It seems like it wasn't just silence edited out.
"At approximately 1:14 (a minute, 14 seconds into the audio, which can be heard here), the tone of the recording change to where to me, it sounds like someone is holding a digital recorder up to a speaker, so it's a microphone-to-speaker transfer of that information. That's a pretty big deal because it raises the first red flag about there possibly being some editing," he said.
The next part that raises questions is two minutes, six seconds in, through two minutes, nine seconds in, he said.
"I can hear noise in the room, along with the increase in the noise floor. I can hear a file door being closed, I can hear some papers being shuffled. so I'm further convinced that, beginning at 1:14 continuing through 2:06 to 2:15, it's a digital recorder being held up to a speaker."
"But yet, at 6:17, there's a huge edit because the conversation is cut off. It's interrupted. And the tone changes again," he said. "The noise floor, when you're authenticating a recording from a forensic perspective, is a very important part of the process. All of a sudden, we go back to the same quality and extremely low noise floor that we had at the beginning of the recording."
Re: Seven years on, what do we know about the disappearance of flight MH370? (2021)
#50Fascinating article. I had a chuckle at this excerpt: >The Malaysian investigators did look into whether the cargo could have started a fire, noting that it consisted mainly of ripe mangosteen fruits along with a small number of lithium batteries. Extensive attempts by the investigators to get mangosteen juice to react with the batteries and trigger a fire were unsuccessful. I'm sure plenty of people here have spent…
Investigations have some weird bits. I've always wondered if there's a certain title for the person who prepares the chickens for the 'chicken gun' in airplane testing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_gun
Operational Testing Lead
Quality Assurance Tester
El Pollo Hermano