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NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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I dont understand why some people online want to take every opportunity to defend class traitors.

No one on HN understands reality. The name of the site should be False Consciousness.

Every online site is an echo chamber. Why are you here?

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I was thinking the other day about how jails are powerful in all the wrong ways. Inmates harm each other and their crimes are not always prosecuted. Guards beat someone to death and no charges are ever filed. Prisons have the power to hide crimes when convenient, but don't have the power to stop gang activity and drugs inside the prison. This is what corrupted power looks like. Police departments are often the same.

> Police departments are often the same. I don't know understand why some people online seem to so often want to steer discussions towards how the police are so awful.

Corrections officers are sworn officers in many (all?) states. Typically under an elected sheriff at the county level.

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What’s wrong with working on a porn site? I’d feel better about working on a porn site than at least one of FAANGs.

Many people consider porn fundamentally immoral, not to mention most porn has connection to sex trafficking.

>not to mention most porn has connection to sex trafficking.

Citation needed

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What a ridiculous presumption. Is there anything resembling evidence that the current system of incarceration selects the "kinds of people" to whom you refer, rather than arbitrarily from the population, weighted by money and melanin?

Are you saying that no one in prison is there because they committed a crime? While I’d be certain that there are false positives, you seem to be asserting that the entire prison population is composed of false positives.

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Re: NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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I'm sure reducing prisoner contact with loved ones will surely reduce crime! /s

That's a feature, isn't it? Must keep the revolving door spinning!

What else will we do with all these surplus unproductive labor pools? Everyone knows if someone isn't useful to the stock market, they deserve to suffer.

Re: NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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> Police departments are often the same. I don't know understand why some people online seem to so often want to steer discussions towards how the police are so awful.

Corrections officers are sworn officers in many (all?) states. Typically under an elected sheriff at the county level.

There is a pretty huge difference between corrections officers working for the department of corrections and police officers working for the police department.

Re: NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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Prisoners in the United States don't even have access to the internet, and now this for NYC? Really a disgrace.

I'd want to give prisoners access to an offline copy of the internet...

Lets start with a dump of wikipedia on cheap $40 android phones with the radios disabled.

Plenty of prisoners would like to learn stuff given the opportunity. No reason not to let them, especially the ones who will be getting out of prison one day.

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Nothing really wrong with working on a porn site, but I might hesitate to bring it up with my family members.

"I'm a Software Developer at MindGeek, a prestigious global industry-leading information technology firm."

Engineer on a video platform that's bigger than youtube

Re: NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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It's unreal how much money prisons make off of Prisoners' families. Selling items for 2-4x as much as retail, selling them items and not allowing them to give them away when they leave, making phone calls super expensive, etc. A large majority of this money comes from the Prisoner's family. And because they're prisoners most people will never really care until it happens to them. And this isn't really just a US thing…

In Switzerland the internal shops sell at premium prices as well. But regulations are way less intrusive on what you can receive, or on any other aspect as a matter of fact. The theoretical goal of "reeducation" is thus placed slightly closer.

Re: NYC jails want to ban physical mail, then privatize scanning of digital versions

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Hard disagree. If I were in prison, it would make a great difference to me to keep a drawing that my child sent me in my cell, vs. maybe being able to look at a bad scan of it. Plus, when would I actually get to see the scan?

Sure — but you’re not in prison. The kinds of people in there are probably receiving smuggled goods or other illicit materials, not pleasant drawings from kids.

As recently as 2022 en masse convictions of corrections officers have been happening within states.

In Georgia during a two year sting 46 people were convicted, all DOC employees, mostly Corrections Officers.

Taking away physical mail from people already deprived of their rights seems extreme, especially when the problem pretty clearly is COs who enable it.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/final-defendants-includin...

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/court-overturns-guards...

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