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The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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Interesting fact for those (including myself) who always wondered on flights why there are still ashtrays in the lavatories despite signs everywhere saying no smoking: "Now, ashtrays in bathrooms are listed by as a legal requirement for “minimum equipment” by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). So seriously is the regulation taken that in 2009 a Mexico-bound British airways flight was grounded after it was discovered not to be packing any ashtrays. (https://time.com/4919780/airplanes-smoking-tray-ashtrays-air...)

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I am so glad smoking is prohibited in public places. I can't stand it all, and my wife is allergic to it. Next I would love to see more restrictions on driving loud noised cars and bikes, every time I see a Harley owner ride by with a loud noise or a truck owner drive by, I can't feel anything but contempt for such lowlife humans who have no regards for other people's and animals' sensitivities.

>I can't feel anything but contempt for such lowlife humans Sounds to me like you could use some therapy, it's not good to have this much hatred inside. It's ok if someone does something that bothers you, some noise or some smoke won't kill you, it's just perspective, objectively it doesn't hurt you in any way, but the reason it does is because you have these strong beliefs against it, so you basically choose to be h…

>objectively it doesn't hurt you in any way, but the reason it does is because you have these strong beliefs against it, so you basically choose to be hurt.

If you acknowledge it does hurt them in some subjective way, why do you assume that the reason it hurts them is because they have strong beliefs about it, and not the other way around?

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It's tough to portray just how ubiquitous smoking was to a modern audience. You would go to a restaurant and the first thing your hostess would ask is "smoking or non"? I remember standing in a checkout line in the 80s as a child and being fascinated with the billowing clouds of smoke an old lady blew. I remember coming home from bars reeking of smoke, even though I didn't. Even teachers had their own lounges that re…

Smoking or non? Looks like you're about 25 years younger than me. When I was a kid, there was no such thing as a nonsmoking section. Of course you could smoke, anywhere! Us kids didn't get real tobacco cigarettes, but we always had candy cigarettes so we could "smoke" along with the grown-ups. https://www.google.com/search?q=candy+cigarette&tbm=isch One difference from today was that our candy cigarettes had brand na…

You can still find candy cigarettes on Amazon. They used to have candy/gum cigars as well. Anyone remember big league bubble gum? It came in a package similar to that of shredded chewing tobacco, and the gun itself was shredded. It was popular with kids who would mimic their favorite tobacco chewing baseball player. I recently bought a pack I saw for sale to show my kids and instinctively put a wad in my lip when I was a kid.

Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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A more meta thought about ashtrays - I just want to point out that we can do things if we want to.

In the last few years I have heard many young people depressed, lethargic, and only see doom and gloom because of some self-destructive behaviors. I want to remind them that there is not only possibility but likely probability that we can and will correct ourselves.

Think about when we started smoking cigarettes. I distinctly remember the yellow film on windows, the cigarette butts on the streets, the burn marks on arm rests, the thick smoke of restaurants. "Everyone" was smoking, and in a few decades it is now nearly wiped out. We corrected our mistake.

How awesome is that?

Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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And possibly the fact that cigarette companies freebase the nicotine by soaking the tobacco in ammonia.

I switched to rolling my own smokes with hemp paper and filters almost 20 years ago. I can't stand the taste or smell of chemicals from packaged cigarettes (even the "organic" ones that still have all kinds of accelerants and flame retardants in the paper). A single Marlboro will give me a headache the next day. It's actually just really sad that smokers have been force-fed that deadly shit, because while the poster…

Wtf did I just read

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It's tough to portray just how ubiquitous smoking was to a modern audience. You would go to a restaurant and the first thing your hostess would ask is "smoking or non"? I remember standing in a checkout line in the 80s as a child and being fascinated with the billowing clouds of smoke an old lady blew. I remember coming home from bars reeking of smoke, even though I didn't. Even teachers had their own lounges that re…

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Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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The effect is also stronger, lasts longer, and is less addictive than coffee. The average user isn't smoking a joint per hour like it was tobacco. Sure, it's definitely not healthy, but everyone does something that trades longevity for fun. :-)

Still, I'm not sure why someone would bother with the risks of smoking when edibles exist.

I like both. When I want a quick&easy buzz before sleep, a smoke or vape is the option. If I wanna get baked for a few hours and wake up feeling amazing, an edible it is.

Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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I don't think an accident ever occurred because of smoking in the cabin? (Possibly one because of smoking in the lavatory, and I'm not even sure). For smokers, going 4, 6 or 9 hours without smoking is just unthinkable; I know it was for me. So glad I quit (a very long time ago), but I don't know how smokers deal with it today.

Do nicotine patches, gum, etc. not work? (Serious question)

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Re: The Disappearance of the Ashtray

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post #7

It's tough to portray just how ubiquitous smoking was to a modern audience. You would go to a restaurant and the first thing your hostess would ask is "smoking or non"? I remember standing in a checkout line in the 80s as a child and being fascinated with the billowing clouds of smoke an old lady blew. I remember coming home from bars reeking of smoke, even though I didn't. Even teachers had their own lounges that re…

Smoking or non? Looks like you're about 25 years younger than me. When I was a kid, there was no such thing as a nonsmoking section. Of course you could smoke, anywhere! Us kids didn't get real tobacco cigarettes, but we always had candy cigarettes so we could "smoke" along with the grown-ups. https://www.google.com/search?q=candy+cigarette&tbm=isch One difference from today was that our candy cigarettes had brand na…

Good call about candy cigarettes. They were fun as a kid, but demented in retrospect! It makes me think of Saturday Night Live's E. Buzz Miller and his "Bag of Glass" children's toy.

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> On the other hand, being constantly ostracised from public spaces isn’t great either… something I find infuriating when I travel abroad. If there were at least a few smoking bars where you don’t have to go out into the cold to smoke I think that would be nice. I'm a smoker, and I absolutely don't want smoking allowed in public indoor places, and some outdoor public places as well. I don't smoke indoors even in my o…

> Too many times I have had people go out of their way to inhale my second hand smoke, and then complain about it. Too many times I have had people go out of their way to walk in front of my 3 ton truck driving 100 mph in a pedestrian zone to almost get hit, and then complain about it.

What great hyperbole. This is possibly the strongest hyperbole in the _history of the universe!_
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