Earlier quoted context omitted.
Forgot YouTube, which literally has no competitors.
Rumble, odyssey, rokfin, bitchute
all of them account for less than 0.01% of YT traffic
Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
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Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#112After trying out their adwords platform for a year combined with the fact that search in general has plummeted in quality i can't wait for them to crash completely. Adwords is such a scummy endeavour that squeezes more or less all companies using it, but more so smaller players. They are not a friendly company. They are a MegaCorp that is so monopolistic and dark (design) in its behaviours it's incredible that it's l…
> ... i can't wait for them to crash completely. But wouldn't Google, even without search ads (which are only up +4% YOY to $40 bn), still be a hundred of billions behemoth? Sure it wouldn't have a 1.3 trillion cap without search ads but Google is also Android, Chrome, ChromeOS, Google Workspace / Google Suite (which, what, 7 millions of SMEs are using), cloud services, etc. I don't see Google "crashing completely" a…
It came out in the Oracle trial that Google only made $27B in profit from Android from inception to the time of discovery.
The fundamentals haven’t changed since then. Google pays Apple a reported $18B+ a year to be the default search engine on iOS devices.
GCP is losing money, Google WorkSpace /GSuite has little penetration in the market compared to MS Office.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#113I kind of feel they should be. I cannot remember what their last major customer-facing AI product launch after Google Assistant. Sure there is AI in photo tuning and many interesting features for the Pixel phone, and there is Gmail autocomplete but I remember I used to really following every Google product launch when I was a kid: there is Google Reader, Google Drive launch in those days. That excitement was kind of…
There is https://blog.google/technology/ai/lamda/, but sadly it's not consumer facing yet.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#114"In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete." Transcribing this profound insight of Buckminster Fuller to the current debate: You cannot out-do google by inventing "smarter" search. You need to create a new business model that makes the old one obsolete. Is there any evidence that all this algorithmic magic…
Exactly. Search ads are pretty much the perfect internet business model - if my biz is having a sale on lawnmowers, who better to target than people googling for "buy lawnmower"? If this is done right, everyone walks away happy and google makes a killing. ChatGPT is great, but it's pretty far from providing good answers to "where can I get a good deal on a lawnmower right now?" They might take over a decent share of…
Ads work because they're embedded in interesting or useful things. No one would use a search engine composed of 100% ads.
Chat-GPT can be used for this: returing interesting results. The ads don't have to be served through chat-GPT, but could be given as a side result.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#115"In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete." Transcribing this profound insight of Buckminster Fuller to the current debate: You cannot out-do google by inventing "smarter" search. You need to create a new business model that makes the old one obsolete. Is there any evidence that all this algorithmic magic…
While I agree with your post, it is somewhat funny that not one of Fuller’s ‘disruptive’ products ever made a commercial dent.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google has lots of useful products that aren’t advertising-based, but they mostly seem to be loss leaders. which ones ? I lost track of google products in the recent years
The stuff they charge for that makes up the rest of their revenue: Cloud, Photos, Drive storage, YouTube Premium, etc.
I've been so used to them being builtin android google apps I forgot there were options.
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#117> Google announced it’s laying off more than 12,000 employees and focusing on AI as a domain of primary importance. I have had an Android phone since Froyo. I liked it when the functionality was simple and didn't try to inject too much suggestions / AI. Now, Google Photos app is trying to suggest things to print, the Settings app is trying to predict when and how to charge my battery (I just want it 80%, all the time…
I moved off Spotify to escape AI. It was good at first, but I started to feel like I was being pushed into a rut with music, that I’d lost all autonomy when it came to finding new music for myself. I wonder if the novelty of a lot of consumer AI will wear off for others in the long run.
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#118Seems like Google leadership is freaking out.
Also sounds like they really believe the whole founder-hero mythology if they think that Page-Brin can save the company.
I don’t know how Google could be saved but perhaps having grateful and happy employees that would just build things in their 20% time might have been a better strategy. A truly revolutionary step would have been to buck the layoffs trend. But of course not.
Sundar doesn’t seem exceptionally promising. It seems like he is an ok leader when things are going well but not so good in tougher times.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#119"In order to change an existing paradigm you do not struggle to try and change the problematic model. You create a new model and make the old one obsolete." Transcribing this profound insight of Buckminster Fuller to the current debate: You cannot out-do google by inventing "smarter" search. You need to create a new business model that makes the old one obsolete. Is there any evidence that all this algorithmic magic…
> You cannot out-do google by inventing "smarter" search.
Pretty sure you can, because Google search sucks balls. (First and foremost because it ignores context. E.g., searching for programming API documentation is tuned entirely differently compared to searching for movie recommendations.)
That said, Google is not in the search business, because there is no such thing. Google is in the context advertising business.
Re: Google calls in help from Larry Page and Sergey Brin for A.I. fight
#120Last time this happened people thought social was the future. Facebook was considered a threat to everything since they had the social-graph, so everything had to become social. Google+, Google Buzz, Orkut.
Social was able to achieve everything it was expected from it, most of the content on internet went behind walls unreachable by Google. Google missed out on that but didn't lose it's ground much or its losses were compensated by their success in mobile.
The difference this time is, the new shiny thing goes directly into Google territory.