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Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by charcircuit »

andybak wrote: post #206
charcircuit wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>VRChat is winning VR. >nothing reaches the scale of VRChat's community, platform, and developer ecosystem. Neos and Chillout require VR. Most VRChat players play the game without VR.

Source?

https://metrics.vrchat.community

Look at the last graph which compares the total vrchat player count to the steam player count. All non Steam users are Quest users. There are more Steam users than Quest users even that the Quest is a much bigger VR platform than PCVR. The Steam player count is so high because it is counting desktop users who do not use VR.

This data does not support my argumunt that most vrchat players play on desktop. I would be curious about focusing on just the Steam users and seeing what percentage of them used VR.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by Ntrails »

dougmwne wrote: post #28

Shutting down AltSpace should be a loud warning bell for Meta’s Horizon Worlds. Horizon is basically a badly executed AltSpace. AltSpace was super niche, but some artists and marginalized people seemed to find a home there. It was like an odd cross between a digital Burning Man and a BIPOC LGTBQ+ neurodivergent support group. I had a memorable conversation during the height of the pandemic with an older gay man whose…

Sounds a lot like chat rooms on early community websites. Just a bunch of people (who in my case loved a specific set of books), chatting about whatever under a handle and without needing to carry around your real self - but nor with any fear to hide anything.

I dunno, I cannot see anything like that ever surviving mass adoption

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Post by boppo1 »

porknubbins wrote: post #125
mbfg wrote: post #106

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don't disagree, i find it interesting that people get unbelievably angered when individuals record them in public, but could care less when business do. I could understand some difference in reaction between the two, but the actual gulf displayed is astounding.

I’m not familiar with the google glass incidents but surely people have good reason to feel differently about being singled out and clandestinely recorded by an individual compared to a business that automatically records everyone who enters. I don’t think carrying a camera down the street would get you punched.

I don't disagree. I'm not saying how they should feel, just that I think they feel less of it lately.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by techwizard81 »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #213
Mikeb85 wrote: post #212

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Everyone's pushing IRL meetings though. Apart from tech, most industries are back at the office...

Were we talking specifically about corporate work? There's more to meetings or meetups than just your job. That said, I think VR/AR may eventually be a way to enhance online work meetings. It doesn't seem like it's there yet overall, but eventually I could definitely see it working.

Can you elaborate on how VR would enhance meetings? I really don’t see the point myself. I don’t want to meet some avatar in a virtual room and I don’t know anybody who would.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by xiphias2 »

victor106 wrote: post #117

> despite CEO Satya Nadella's buzzword-laden speeches on the topic at recent events. Nailed it. I do like some of the things he’s doing at Microsoft though

So far all interviews with him were buzzwords, except the last one about OpenAI and especially ChatGPT.

It's clear that it's something he's excited about into putting in all Microsoft software.

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Post by brodokk »

charcircuit wrote: post #192
echelon wrote: post #108

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VRChat is winning VR. Despite there being a few alternatives (Neos, Chillout, etc.), nothing reaches the scale of VRChat's community, platform, and developer ecosystem. Whoever buys VRChat wins VR.

>VRChat is winning VR. >nothing reaches the scale of VRChat's community, platform, and developer ecosystem. Neos and Chillout require VR. Most VRChat players play the game without VR.

Sorry to say but you can play Neos and Chillout without VR. Source? Just simply check the steam page of both...

I can only talk about neos, most players play in VR yes. (Source from the API directly)

For Chillout I don't know how to check this infromation

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

dougmwne wrote: post #28

Shutting down AltSpace should be a loud warning bell for Meta’s Horizon Worlds. Horizon is basically a badly executed AltSpace. AltSpace was super niche, but some artists and marginalized people seemed to find a home there. It was like an odd cross between a digital Burning Man and a BIPOC LGTBQ+ neurodivergent support group. I had a memorable conversation during the height of the pandemic with an older gay man whose…

That sounds like 4chan. And it doesn't work because you can't monetize it.

Browse to 4chan and turn off your ad blockers if you want to understand.

Re: Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens

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Post by ScottEvtuch »

charcircuit wrote: post #221
andybak wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

https://metrics.vrchat.community Look at the last graph which compares the total vrchat player count to the steam player count. All non Steam users are Quest users. There are more Steam users than Quest users even that the Quest is a much bigger VR platform than PCVR. The Steam player count is so high because it is counting desktop users who do not use VR. This data does not support my argumunt that most vrchat playe…

If you buy the game on Steam but play using a Quest don't you count as a Steam user? It would launch using SteamVR.

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

mbfg wrote: post #106
boppo1 wrote: post #91

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Iirc there was some face-punching resistance to people recording discreetly. I suspect that may have subsided some in many areas due to the longer them of high-res-video-recorder ubiquity.

don't disagree, i find it interesting that people get unbelievably angered when individuals record them in public, but could care less when business do. I could understand some difference in reaction between the two, but the actual gulf displayed is astounding.

There are laws that prohibit companies from filming and posting it online. You can sue them for millions of dollars.

Private persons can leak all this stuff anonymously and nobody is going to track them down. Glasshole also represented a new frontier for hackers.

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Post by tinus_hn »

LexGray wrote: post #152
goldcd wrote: post #137

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Just need to download the 90 gig client, then I'll join your Teams 2 call.

Just part of the standard OS install. Nobody notices bloat any more.

A very large amount of people notice the bloat in Teams, how it wastes your memory, cpu and your battery and how it makes your laptop fan spin.
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