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I'm not really informed about this case. Did she do any damage to people or just to capital?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-patients-hurt-by-theranos-1...
That to me is what pushes me over the edge to jail for her: defrauding investors arguably should not involve jail time but I think knowingly playing games with medical procedures, food safety, etc. should be one of the electrified third rails that everyone knows is not worth any profit.
> there is one criminal justice system in this country. That's an illusion. There's almost no wealthy criminal that sees the walls of a prison - and if they do, they find ways to get out very quickly thanks to their connections.
In general, wealthy people make up a small proportion of the population and tend (though not always) towards greater intelligence, or at least education, than the average. Both of these factors make them less likely to show up in prisons in general. It doesn't have to be about connections and special favors. Sure, many wealthy people can afford better legal defense and the justice system definitely makes things easie…
What makes you think this?
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Because the rich won’t have any incentive to change the system otherwise.
As if the poor couldn’t vote to change things if they wanted to.
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As if the poor couldn’t vote to change things if they wanted to.
Vote for whom? Which political party represents interests of the people who are looking for systematic changes in favor of the working class? It's extremely hard to democratically enact change even in countries with multiple political parties and proportional representation. The US doesn't even have that , it's an illusion of choice with 2 parties who are equally corrupt.
The real problem is that people simply don’t care. People are much more willing to go to the polls over their right to own guns than issues like this.
I'm not really informed about this case. Did she do any damage to people or just to capital?
Both: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-patients-hurt-by-theranos-1... That to me is what pushes me over the edge to jail for her: defrauding investors arguably should not involve jail time but I think knowingly playing games with medical procedures, food safety, etc. should be one of the electrified third rails that everyone knows is not worth any profit.
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Punishment isn’t only about the crime in the past. Punishment is used as deterrence against possible future crimes by others - to show what will happen if they do something similar
I don't think it should be that, because that can cause people who committed not very serious crimes to be punished disproportionately as an example. It's unjust.
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Both: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-patients-hurt-by-theranos-1... That to me is what pushes me over the edge to jail for her: defrauding investors arguably should not involve jail time but I think knowingly playing games with medical procedures, food safety, etc. should be one of the electrified third rails that everyone knows is not worth any profit.
Are you equally as mad that there are people who walk away with 5 years in prison after performing 8-9 figures worth of unnecessary lab tests in order to bill Medicare? Or physicians who get millions in kickbacks to prescribe expensive compounded drugs that might not even work? Holmes is a drop in the bucket of overall healthcare fraud (this kind of crime has a lot of recidivists) and is probably one of the less egre…
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I don't think it should be that, because that can cause people who committed not very serious crimes to be punished disproportionately as an example. It's unjust.
I think people who commit crimes should be seriously punished simply because of all the resources we have to spend to be vigilant against such things.
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It doesn't sound like you're familiar with the UK system either. Bail in the UK means adherence to specific conditions, i.e. live somewhere the police can find you, stay away from the victim and don't leave the country. It doesn't involve cash changing hands. If you've done something very bad, or are a big flight risk you will not be granted bail, but again, not a money issue. The person you're responding to is refer…
Cash bail totally exists in the UK, even if uncommon. I’ve had to hand over money to get a friend out after he was arrested due to an extradition request. > If you've done something very bad, or are a big flight risk you will not be granted bail, but again, not a money issue It absolutely is a money issue. The bigger surety you can put up, the less those things matter.