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Unless I’m missing something, it amounts to making a slave race out of someone’s mind scan. So I’m someone who never eats animals nor animal products. I have always wondered why reincarnationists, when I talk to them, presume time is a directly mapped thing. I say to them, how do you not know, there is only one "soul", but you are just seeing it at different points in existence? How do you not know that you are that…

Reminds me of The Egg: http://galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

Reminds me of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Zombies

https://gist.github.com/defunkt/759182/ad44c6135d168ae54503a...

Re: Make up a guy

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I encountered the author’s short story that’s linked in the article, Lena [1], a while ago, possibly here on HN. It’s really great, but be warned. It’s one of the most deeply disturbing sci-fi horror stories I’ve ever seen. To be clear, most of the horror is implied rather than described, which I think only makes it worse. Part of me wishes I had never read it. Highly recommended, but if you’re at all in doubt if you…

Thank you. You'd have to be made of stone not to be moved by that. It is interesting that we - humans - would probably happily follow down this path when presented with the opportunity to do so in spite of stories like these. And this isn't an all that unlikely outcome.

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Man, I love Charlie Stross, but I’ve also learned that HOLY CRAP HIS SERVER IS SLOW, so I mostly don’t even hit links to antipope anymore. Oh well.

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I encountered the author’s short story that’s linked in the article, Lena [1], a while ago, possibly here on HN. It’s really great, but be warned. It’s one of the most deeply disturbing sci-fi horror stories I’ve ever seen. To be clear, most of the horror is implied rather than described, which I think only makes it worse. Part of me wishes I had never read it. Highly recommended, but if you’re at all in doubt if you…

If you think this is horrific, then you apparently assume that it has "consciousness" rather than only simulating it. A true AGI might be intelligent but only simulate consciousness. And yes, it might be difficult to tell the difference. This reminds me of Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment. In order to upgrade the Chinese Room to modern deep learning: suppose we run a brain image by instructing each human bein…

For that matter, you might only be simulating consciousness. How could you prove otherwise? I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt though, and treat you as if you were really conscious.

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I encountered the author’s short story that’s linked in the article, Lena [1], a while ago, possibly here on HN. It’s really great, but be warned. It’s one of the most deeply disturbing sci-fi horror stories I’ve ever seen. To be clear, most of the horror is implied rather than described, which I think only makes it worse. Part of me wishes I had never read it. Highly recommended, but if you’re at all in doubt if you…

I read it. Unless I’m missing something, it amounts to making a slave race out of someone’s mind scan. So I’m someone who never eats animals nor animal products. This is in part from the sheer scale of that industry. But also from simply interacting with non-humans and knowing there’s enough intelligence there for me to honor and be horrified at the suffering or destruction of it. But I’m clearly in the minority here…

>Unless I’m missing something, it amounts to making a slave race out of someone’s mind scan

People most of the time have scope insensitivity, while sometimes it hits home

There is always death at a relatively soon point in the real world. The scan slave can be tortured with the worst methods you can think of for hundreds of thousands of relative millennia at will, and it will have happened countless times for different copies

You can always hang yourself if existence is pain in the real world, and if not... it will end up soon enough anyway. There is no such relief in the story

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Taking this literally. I asked chatgpt to make up a guy. Write a 300 word biography of a fictional man who lives in Idaho --- John Smith was born and raised in the small town of Boise, Idaho. Growing up, he was always interested in the outdoors and spent much of his childhood exploring the nearby mountains and forests. After graduating high school, he attended the University of Idaho where he studied forestry and wil…

ChatGPT looks like an interesting starting point for NPC biographies in role playing games. Hmmm

There's a Bannerlord modder that managed to connect ChatGPT/GPT-3 into the RPG game for NPC dialogues.

Quite amazing

https://youtu.be/akceKOLtytw https://youtu.be/L_qauw4QM3Q

Re: Make up a guy

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I encountered the author’s short story that’s linked in the article, Lena [1], a while ago, possibly here on HN. It’s really great, but be warned. It’s one of the most deeply disturbing sci-fi horror stories I’ve ever seen. To be clear, most of the horror is implied rather than described, which I think only makes it worse. Part of me wishes I had never read it. Highly recommended, but if you’re at all in doubt if you…

For someone who wants something less scary (Your comment and those that followed made me decide not to read it, I had enough from "I have no mouth, and I must scream"), I recently read Accelerando [0] by ~~the same author~~ the guy who runs the linked blog . Starts like transhumanist cyberpunk, becomes transhumanist and posthuman sci-fi. I never felt so lost in a book. Like I was the conservative who couldn’t underst…

The post here is by qntm, a guest blogger, not the author of Accelerando (Charles Stross, the blog host).

Re: Make up a guy

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Depending on what you mean by "fully abandoning it" that doesn't seem to track with humans being loss-averse as has been shown in (I believe) many psychological studies. Meaning most people vastly prefer remaining at a low level than to even lose a tiny bit. The fate of a frog becoming human and then being discarded shortly afterwards would be judged to be much more terrible by most people than the frog never becomin…

Well that sounds like a moral philosophy that is alien, unappealing, and downright evil in its consequences. I mean, by that exact logic—if you truly believe it—you should be out euthanizing homeless people as a net win. Every human life has value. There is no instance where I would value the life of a frog over the life of a human being. By logical consequence, I should always prefer one more human over one more fro…

By your logic, everybody should make as many babies as possible. I know there are people that claim to believe that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone who wants something less scary (Your comment and those that followed made me decide not to read it, I had enough from "I have no mouth, and I must scream"), I recently read Accelerando [0] by ~~the same author~~ the guy who runs the linked blog . Starts like transhumanist cyberpunk, becomes transhumanist and posthuman sci-fi. I never felt so lost in a book. Like I was the conservative who couldn’t underst…

The post here is by qntm, a guest blogger, not the author of Accelerando (Charles Stross, the blog host).

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