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Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by JoeyPriceless »

graphenjoyer wrote: post #132
mckeed wrote: post #79

I mapped out the structure of the board as a graph of which squares you can get to from which other squares. It's surprisingly stringy without all the squares forbidden by the queen placement. https://i.imgur.com/8OuQcu8.png

Same but with the original board as part of the visualization, and with different parts of the structure highlighted: https://ibb.co/JFY3jm4 It made a lot more sense after doing that, as I'm nowhere near proficient enough at chess to see the board and all its moves in my mind's eye.

Really living up to your username!

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by TuringTest »

abliefern wrote: post #169
riffraff wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they say to move in every place, while you're expected to to move to a specific place in every step. f8 is the first for me, but I did not understand that was supposed to be the target, since it seems arbitrary.

But it says "every square in order right to left, top to bottom"?

I understood that to mean that 'each single move' should aim to move to the left and below the previous position if possible (presumably to reach the bottom left square as the game goal?); taking 'every square' to imply 'every square you move to'; and being further complicated by having a complex subordinate clause with restrictions to movement.

It's not a clear, unambiguous instruction.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by xg15 »

Instead of just giving the next square you're supposed to jump to, how about just highlighting all the squares on the board that you already visited? I think that would make the game both easier to understand and give the player an incentive to complete it (the "gotta catch em all" effect)

Edit: ... or maybe not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34461415

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by TuringTest »

xg15 wrote: post #173

Instead of just giving the next square you're supposed to jump to, how about just highlighting all the squares on the board that you already visited? I think that would make the game both easier to understand and give the player an incentive to complete it (the "gotta catch em all" effect) Edit: ... or maybe not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34461415

That would be missing the 'in order' part (not that it's much relevant, since you should already know how to backtrack to any visited square).

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by xg15 »

spicybright wrote: post #15
naet wrote: post #5

The fact that it doesn't highlight where you've moved already makes it no fun. Edit: the directions weren't super clear. I see that you're actually supposed to go to every square in a specific order (first G8, then F8, E8, etc), not just visit them all in any order. That means you have to do a bunch of laborious trips around the queen to go to certain squares since you won't have enough room to maneuver directly ther…

I agree, but I wonder if it's on purpose. I found the repo[1] and it's very small readme says it's a "Chess visualization exercise" So I'm wondering if it's an extreme exercise in memorization to help you visualize games better. (I'm just talking out my butt here, I know nothing about chess puzzles) [1]: https://github.com/jairtrejo/knight-moves

Ah ok! If this is part of some sort of chess training course, this would make sense. Sadly, HN is really bad at presenting context for a submission.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by TuringTest »

throwbadubadu wrote: post #159
ryandrake wrote: post #81

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Well, it's the one thing the directions didn't actually say: The goal of the game. I'd be shocked if anyone went to that site and could figure out what to do.

Have to raise my hand then to shock you.. what else should the coordinate that is also indicated on the axes mean? > to every square in order, right to left, top to bottom Added to that immediately. shrug But yeah as the title says, one realizes quickly that knight moves pretty strange so got bored after 5 targets and did something more exciting: wrote a Python script that prints me the moves from and to any coordina…

Have to raise my hand then to shock you.. what else should the coordinate that is also indicated on the axes mean?

Yeah, but it's not clear that the instructions text is talking about that symbol, *because it doesn't say so* explicitly.

Sometimes a small level of information redundancy is good for communicating with humans, instead of forcing them to make the correct inferences in place.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by abliefern »

TuringTest wrote: post #172
abliefern wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it says "every square in order right to left, top to bottom"?

I understood that to mean that 'each single move' should aim to move to the left and below the previous position if possible (presumably to reach the bottom left square as the game goal?); taking 'every square' to imply 'every square you move to'; and being further complicated by having a complex subordinate clause with restrictions to movement. It's not a clear, unambiguous instruction.

Aahhhhh.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by TuringTest »

abliefern wrote: post #137
vore wrote: post #63

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I didn't actually realize the goal of the game was to do it all in order! The help text just says "Move the knight to every square, right to left, top to bottom."

I'm having difficulty understanding your difficulty in understanding. What did you think "right to left, top to bottom" meant?

I got the same problem, I thought it meant 'relative to the current position', until you hit bottom left.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by IanCal »

Dalewyn wrote: post #157
charcircuit wrote: post #117

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The game tells you what square to move to.

You need to have /some/ experience playing chess to realize and understand chess notation. And no, vague and indirect "move to every square in order" located separately from the chess notation is not good information. Also, no, tiny nomenclature for ants on the board is not good information.

Also on a phone/thin browser window the goal shrinks from "huge text under the header" to "small text at the bottom of the screen" and the instructional text disappears.

Re: Ain't it funny how the knight moves?

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Post by mort96 »

addandsubtract wrote: post #27
quickthrower2 wrote: post #19

I think the instructions should be: Move to the square indicated below the board without moving to a square the queen can capture and without capturing the queen. Once accomplished a new square will be indicated. Repeat until all possible squares are done.

Holy... is that what you're supposed to do?!? No wonder the bar wasn't growing even though I jumped to every possible square -.-

Just curious, what exactly did you think "in order, right to left, top to bottom" was supposed to mean?
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