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Job Hunting in 2022

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Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by UncleOxidant »

grugagag wrote: post #76
yamtaddle wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shit I'm brain-dead by about 3 hours into an interview or set of interviews, even if it's not the leetcode type. It's draining in a way that no actual work, even hair-on-fire emergency work, is (except maybe sitting in very-tense meetings—that's got a similar effect on me). Doing that more than once or twice in a single week might make me consider applying to clerk at a gas station instead.

Haha, I feel the same. Luckily it’s not everywhere like that and you could do much better than a gas station clerk, the biggest hurdle is to find the best place where you’d be the best fit at, the interview would likely run well and everything fall into place after that

It could take a lot of harrowing interviews before you find the peaceful place that doesn't basically haze interviewees. I think probably you've gotta be willing to just walk out of a bad interview situation. Maybe even having that mindset (that there's a way out) would help with the nerves?

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

nvarsj wrote: post #22
sbuccini wrote: post #3

Thanks to the author for taking the time to write this up. I think it is a fairly realistic description of what the process is like for an engineer who has spent several years working in Silicon Valley at a well-known company. The key takeaways, coming from someone with a similar background: * Rely heavily on your personal network to both identify worthwhile opportunities and for referrals which, in the Before Times,…

> They had a _full_ pipeline, interviewing every day for three weeks straight. I honestly think I'd be physically incapable of doing this. I'm on the HSP side and even a single set of interviews is enough to drive me into an insomnia/anxiety cycle for weeks. I can't even imagine what this would be like for me. Albeit I admit it's the best way to get the job you want. Maybe I'm in the wrong industry...

That's actually exactly why I do such a grind when I'm interviewing. The first set of interviews affects me like you said, but if I keep at it, I get used to it. Which means the only way for me to do well is to keep at it until it's routine.

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by UncleOxidant »

wildrhythms wrote: post #95
wikibob wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look into beta blockers. Also used by stage performers for similar reasons. https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/generalized-anxiety-disord...

Or maybe the hiring process is broken beyond repair when engineers who are perfectly qualified need to inhibit parts of their brain just to 'perform' at an artificially inflated level.

This right here. If there are more and more of us who do just fine in an actual engineering job but need beta-blockers or other anxiolytics just to make it through an intense set of interviews maybe something's broken with the hiring process?

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by [deleted] »

wildrhythms wrote: post #95
wikibob wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look into beta blockers. Also used by stage performers for similar reasons. https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/generalized-anxiety-disord...

Or maybe the hiring process is broken beyond repair when engineers who are perfectly qualified need to inhibit parts of their brain just to 'perform' at an artificially inflated level.

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Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by mhlakhani »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #109

In the job market right now. I have a question about talking to recruiters. I am talking to a couple of them, who are working with companies whose name or location they won't even disclose until the company looks at my CV and decides to move ahead. But the recruiters want me to specify a salary expectation. But my salary expectations depend on whether I am living in the downtown of large city or in a smaller city, or…

I've generally had bad experiences with third party recruiters so I try to avoid them when I can. in your position I'd probably be upfront and mention the ranges you are OK with in the different situations.

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by mhlakhani »

5544ffee wrote: post #103

> November: Interviews all day erryday What a luxury! I only had 3 weeks of vacation and burned through almost all of it because every company expects you to do multiple rounds of interviews during business hours. Eventually I just quit because it was literally impossible to search for a job while working full time.

I was between jobs so I had the luxury to do this - I wouldn't recommend this heavy a schedule for people who already have a job. It's impossible.

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by eulers_secret »

Sodman wrote: post #39

I get that it's still a candidates market (especially for strong candidates like OP who can get 11 offers from 13 full attempts), but the spreadsheet of questions you should be asking a company linked in TFA has some eyebrow raising notes and unreasonable expectations imho. For example - there's a big pushback that any hiring manager worried about a candidate who don't have required skills they could learn in 6-12 mo…

When I was doing Linux driver dev, it was expected new hires would take 8-12 months to ramp up and start to contribute (usually not well at first).

When I asked the Mesa devs how long ramp-up was I was told around 12-18 months.

When I was working on ChromeOS we expected about 6 months of ramp.

I guess it’s just different projects and jobs at companies. I would never hold my breath to find a candidate that had experience in any of the above.

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by coffeebeqn »

majormajor wrote: post #75
nsxwolf wrote: post #25

On my last job search I found that overloading myself with interviews was very stressful. It's one of the reason I will no longer continue with any process that has take home assignments - at one point I had 4 different assignments with overlapping due dates. Far too much stress (and I was ghosted on all of them). It's also not fun to be waiting to hear from the places you're really interested in while you've multipl…

I always thought the idea of a take-home sounded appealing, especially when I first heard of them ~15 years ago. The first time I found a bug in a company's take home project spec rather spoiled them for me. And sadly, that's not the only time that happened! A candidate who puts more effort into it than the person who created it gets rewarded by feeling confused or like they're missing something because it doesn't ad…

Seems like these days it’s that or 4 hours of leetcode which is even worse

Re: Job Hunting in 2022

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Post by coffeebeqn »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #104

> I completed full interview loops at 13 companies and received 11 offers. I'm glad I got the rejections I did - it was clear there wasn't a mutual match. 11 out of 13 seems like a really extremely good hit rate. Even a 50% offer rate would be really good so I'm guessing this person is way better at interviewing than most of us. As most of these interviews were in in October/November I wonder if it would go as well n…

Seems like we have managed to implement winner take all in Tech interviews too. Of course most people get 0 offers from 13 interviews
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