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Airplane seats are oversold, so airlines don't care.
Depends on the airline, not all overbook.
Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
#122> Holmes’ partner, William Evans, also bought a one-way ticket “and did not return until approximately six weeks later, returning from a different continent,” prosecutors said. Did she buy the ticket herself or did someone book a trip and buy tickets for her/in her name? I don't support her but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. The one ticket sounds bad, but a series of tickets with eventual return do…
> I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Why would you be inclined to give a convicted fraudster the benefit of the doubt?
In that sense, I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt; certainly, more benefit than I would afford to anyone who was on the board of directors.
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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sure, but once you're in mexico it's just a quick courtesy call to the airline to let them know you're an international fugitive from justice and won't be able to catch your return flight.
That might even be covered under the optional flight insurance
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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This may happen once in a while due to some algorithm weirdness, but it is absolutely not "often" the case.
No. It depends on the market, but if it is what's known as a "round-trip" market (typically international itineraries), it shifts to become "often" the case. Airlines are all about price discrimination. Leisure travellers benefit inordinately from this behavior.
Is that necessarily true? Charging business travelers more means those businesses have to get the money from somewhere, and one way to do that is to pass the cost onto their customers. So even if you don't fly, you're now paying $0.001 on your next box of cereal to subsidize leisure travelers. Or maybe not! I don't have any data.
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the…
Something I've always sort of wondered: If you live on a yacht in international waters, will the US Navy come and pick you up? For someone of Ms. Holmes' level of GTA stars.
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.
There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the…
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
First you go to Mexico. Then you go somewhere without extradition. Although if I had high resources and was fleeing justice, I probably wouldn’t buy a ticket ahead of time. If anything I would book some domestic travel to be on flight manifests.
There really aren't that many places that won't extradite an American back to America. Like, North Korea and maybe Iran. All the other countries famous for not having extradition treaties with the US like Vietnam are happy to extradite on a case by case basis. There are plenty of countries that won't extradite their nationals as a matter of policy like China, Russia, Switzerland, Lebanon, and so on (it's most of the…
It's thought for instance intelligence may know wanted British terrorist Samantha Lewthwaite is in Kenya or Somalia, but impractical to extract due to being controlled by Al-Shebab. Nobody is gonna send the troops/3 letter goons into some no-mans contested land over some non-violent holmes like character.
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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Back in reality, people miss flights all the time. Not only are you not banned from flying the airline, you often get a credit that you can apply for your next flight.
It does depend on what kind of ticket you're travelling on, and what restrictions apply to it. Full disclosure: I have a bit of a history of flying on what some call "mistake fares". Back in 2013 I flew "from Europe to Hong Kong and back", except it was routed via Australia(!) both on the inbound and the outbound. Was convinced I was going to be denied boarding at every single stop on the itinerary ... I was also you…
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does depend on what kind of ticket you're travelling on, and what restrictions apply to it. Full disclosure: I have a bit of a history of flying on what some call "mistake fares". Back in 2013 I flew "from Europe to Hong Kong and back", except it was routed via Australia(!) both on the inbound and the outbound. Was convinced I was going to be denied boarding at every single stop on the itinerary ... I was also you…
But were you actually denied boarding, or just worried about it? The restrictions may affect what kind of credit you get for missing a flight, but you will never be banned from flying the airline - that's absurd.
If you miss a flight and the airline determines you booked it (typically as a return or hidden city leg) without ever intending to fly it, they will very definitely try to make life difficult for you.
Try short-checking a bag to LON on a NYC-LON-Europe booking with AA or BA, they will refuse. They're worried you booked to Europe for a lower price but intended all along to leave in LON.
There are ways round this "rule", too. If you know what you're doing.
Re: Elizabeth Holmes bought one-way ticket to Mexico after convicted of fraud
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Depends on the airline, not all overbook.
Name please. I want to fly that airline. If you say "my broter Steve's a pilot, and he's never overbooked," I'm going to be very upset
https://www.southwest.com/help/changes-and-cancellations/ove...
https://www.jetblue.com/legal/notices-to-customers
However, this isn't a guarantee you won't get bumped. This just means that the maximum number of tickets sold to customers equals the number of seats on the plane. If the plane changes, so do the number of available seats. And not all passengers are customers. Some may be crew deadheading to another location.
More generally, it is less common for low cost carriers to overbook flights because their passengers tend to be cost-conscious vacationers who paid for the flight out of their own pocket and aren't about to forfeit the fare. Usually these passengers show up at a very high rate. So there usually isn't even a reason to want to overbook these flights.