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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by arp242 »

skedaddle wrote: post #345
arp242 wrote: post #328

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"It" has a pretty clear meaning in English, and it is not as a pronoun for people. You seem eager to reduce this to "just" a pronoun issue, but it's not the same as calling someone "he" or "she", whatever they might prefer. No one gets to single-handedly (re)define the English language for everyone else. "It" in this usage does not fall in to normal English usage, other than to mock people. That they want to use it n…

I'm pretty sure you've been trolled.

It seemed serious, but at this point, who knows any more?

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Post by account-5 »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #476
account-5 wrote: post #451

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Regards the archaic laws I'm not convinced, they tend to just parallel real world crimes. For example if you parallel it to the real world then the crime of trespass covers the Jenkins server situation (you can trespass on land that is open and easy to access) and you still commit a crime if you enter a house where you found the key on the floor outside the door, which covers the S3 situation.

Trespass doesn't get you bent over in the shower of a federal prison. CFAA violations do.

Yes there's clearly a discrepancy regarding punishments but the point I was making was about the initial crimes. I'm also not saying I agree either; certainly a lot of the punishments for crimes in America seem disproportionate to the offences commited.

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Post by Faark »

Larrikin wrote: post #255
ripdog wrote: post #217

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I totally understand wanting to be respectful, but respect goes both ways. She needs to respect the fact that her odd pronouns are literally breaking the English language for people who want to use them.

I personally think that the ultimate end game for pronouns in English will be creations of new ones with no connotations (so easy to apply like names) that get incorporated into the language or more likely an eventual move to a single pronoun that applies to everyone. Chinese, for example, only differentiates in written form so would be an easy adjustment. They is every high schoolers preferred choice in essays befor…

> more likely an eventual move to a single pronoun that applies to everyone

Oh god i hope. As a german, we have pronouns for all nouns. So far no societal backlash against those, but they just seem totally useless to me (beside maybe a teeny tiny bit of "forward error correction"). You just have to learn them. Surest way to spot an immigrant. Then there is job titles. In the US, "nurse" seems to be used for both genders, but the words origin is female. Yeah, we have that as well for many jobs. Others usually have suffixes. Ofc we want to be welcoming to all. You can imagine the job listings...

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Post by tremon »

greenhorn360 wrote: post #361
kristofferR wrote: post #295

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Guys doesn't refer to men anymore, it's now a neutral word that can refer to both genders.

So how many guys have you slept with? It's not neutral but guys like to pretend it is.

Point taken.

There's a difference though between "guys" as an address (which is used by plenty of female-only groups as well) and "guys" as a noun.

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

dagw wrote: post #366
Dylan16807 wrote: post #228

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Isn't that your parser's problem? I don't think true CSV has any special characters other than comma, quote, and CRLF.

Unless it's a CSV file exported from a Nordic locale Excel, in which case your CSV exports will use semi-colon as column separators and commas as decimal points. And yes the filename will still end with ".csv" So the following Excel export I just did will parse perfect fine with your CSV parser but give you completely the wrong thing: 1;2,3;3,3 2;7,3;9,3 3;4,5;7,5

That has nothing to do with the Nordics, but with the decimal separator. In locales that use a comma as the decimal separator (i.e., most European locales), Excel uses a semicolon as CSV separator.

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Post by unsupp0rted »

Avicebron wrote: post #222
unsupp0rted wrote: post #176

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This is exhausting. I wish we could simplify English so that all beings use a single pronoun, and be done with it. This one’s that gender, this one’s neutral gender, this one’s genderless… who cares. If gender or plurality is key to the sentence we can add a word. I like how in Indonesian to make a word plural you double it: pencil pencil = multiple pencils Can we come up with a pronoun that literally means “the bein…

Should we overhaul all languages that use gendered language? I speak French and often think in French (le/la, etc), obviously I speak English, but a lot of modern English comes with heritage from cultures, languages, hell even concepts of thought (yes thinking in differently languages gives unique perspectives of the world).

Yes, we should indeed.

Of all the most useful projects to humanity (diverting asteroids, developing free energy, curing cancers, solving childhood poverty, etc) in any top-3 list I'd put "having a single common language that is super-simple to learn and master and which everybody is taught from childhood".

Let's not change English or French then, but leave them as "classical" languages, but teach kids the new easy/expressive/explicit one. No gendered nouns, no phrasal verbs, no reported speech markers, etc.

Completing this initiative makes all the other ones easier to complete. And it's not like it's much more complicated than the other complicated things we donate to and try to push forward every year.

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Post by borski »

some_furry wrote: post #456
danuker wrote: post #445

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I suspect they're talking about circumvention of technical DRM measures. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

They could also be talking about the Apple email leak caused by incrementing an UUID. There's probably other notable cases with the same failure mode. One of the things you learn working in computer security: history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

weev and AT&T as well.

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Post by logifail »

maccard wrote: post #418
autoexec wrote: post #395

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We can be pretty sure it's not to protect anyone. Anybody too dangerous to allow on an airplane should probably be behind bars. What it does accomplish is letting the government punish people without justification let alone a trial and with pretty much no transparency or consequences when innocent people end up being hurt by it. I imagine that's a power which is hard to surrender, and 'we the people' haven't exactly…

> Anybody too dangerous to allow on an airplane should probably be behind bars. Someone who the US deems a danger but isn't in the US would fit this criteria.

> Someone who the US deems a danger

Someone who is apparently so bad they can't be allowed through airport security into an aircraft, but only if that aircraft is travelling to or within the US?

Yet someone who is apparently so innocent they can't be arrested/detained/charged with anything, anywhere, and so are free to travel the rest of the world.

It sounds ridiculous even just typing that out.

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Post by WXLCKNO »

concordDance wrote: post #396
neilk wrote: post #273

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And they were born in 1999. We are dealing with a unique mind here.

Amusingly, "they" is not one of the pronouns it prefers.

Not sure if amusing but referring to someone as "it" makes it seem like an insult. I realize (per the bottom of the wiki article) that those are the chosen pronouns but still.
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