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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by psychlops » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:08 PM UTC

kleiba wrote: post #455

komali2 wrote: post #394

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Are you asking, what purpose was there in bringing the hammer of the American Justice Department and down onto a random grey hat hacker? The same as always: enforce rigid authoritarianism and blind bureaucratic SOP. Remember kids, clicking the "next page" button on court document websites is legal, doing it with javascript is a felony, off to jail with you, join the rapists and murderers!

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Authoritarian acts are performed by governments that aren't specifically authoritarian regimes all the time.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by InCityDreams » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:11 PM UTC

refurb wrote: post #480

xtian wrote: post #477

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Do you think the only measure of authoritarianism is number of prisoners per capita? At any rate, I was reading that countries like China have alternatives to prison called “administrative detention”. Maybe we should just change the name of our prisons so we can goose the stats?

Call them "Guantanamo's". Problem solved.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by refurb » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:12 PM UTC

peteforde wrote: post #379

greenhorn360 wrote: post #361

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So how many guys have you slept with? It's not neutral but guys like to pretend it is.

This is a genuinely clever reply. I do wonder what a linguist would suggest about these two uses, though. English is a language in which context often changes outcomes.

It’s clever if you’ve never heard of context.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by exabrial » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:12 PM UTC

The TSA no fly list is a blatant violation of the Constitution: for the government to be able to remove a right, you must be convicted at trial.

The fact it still exists at all is incredible, but a disturbing precedent.

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Post by Nurw » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:13 PM UTC

kleiba wrote: post #471

Nurw wrote: post #468

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Nice whataboutism. Are you trying to say as long as there are worse authoritarian regimes exists critiquing the American regime is bad?

No, I'm saying that the US is not an authoritarian regime.

He did not even say america was an authoritarian regime, you made that argument up yourself

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by AYBABTME » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:15 PM UTC

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #425

mkl95 wrote: post #318

TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew > In March 2021, crimew was indicted by a grand jury in the United States on criminal charges related to her alleged hacking activity between 2019 and 2021. The charges were unrelated to the hack of Verkada. Her home and her parents' home were raided by the Swiss police at the request of United States authorities, and her electronic devices were seized. People used…

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To be fair, the skills required to do what is written about here are basically fancy-googling, not exactly "most capable hackers" level. The author walked around town and turned the knob on all the doors they could see. Some doors weren't locked.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by InCityDreams » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:16 PM UTC

mrsuprawsm wrote: post #24

jkingsman wrote: post #5

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maia[0] (it/she pronouns) is almost certainly aware of that this is illegal, and has been indicted by a grand jury for other government hacks. shodan[1] is a search engine that deals in hosts and ip addresses rather than web pages, and is a goldmine for finding everything from exposed ip webcams to jenkins instances. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew [1]: https://www.shodan.io/

US law is neither a universal law nor an international one. Accessing computer systems owned by a US company based in the US might constitute a violation of US law, but the hacker is based in Switzerland - where US law does not apply. As you can see in the linked Wikipedia article, accessing these systems is probably not illegal in Switzerland, thus, for all intents and purposes, no crime was committed.

>- where US law does not apply.

Us law applies wherever they want. Very, very few governments will refuse a request....it's too expensive in the long run.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by tpm » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:16 PM UTC

ripdog wrote: post #179

WatchDog wrote: post #98

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Seems to making it's prosecutors jobs really easy, by incriminating itself.

Perhaps this is just my autism speaking, but am I the only one who gets completely freaked out by sentences like the above? "It" refers to inanimate objects, things which can't have free will, do crimes, or be prosecuted. It's almost like you're talking about how a lawnmower decided to run a child over and then incriminate itself by boasting about it on social media. It makes no sense! I know she picked that pronoun…

> "It" refers to inanimate objects

It may do so in English, but it is Swiss, so probably also speaks German, where 'it' - 'es' is Genus Neutrum, exactly meaning neutral gender. For example 'the child' - 'das Kind' is neutrally gendered. Hope this makes sense.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by the_af » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:18 PM UTC

jcq3 wrote: post #413

mkl95 wrote: post #318

TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew > In March 2021, crimew was indicted by a grand jury in the United States on criminal charges related to her alleged hacking activity between 2019 and 2021. The charges were unrelated to the hack of Verkada. Her home and her parents' home were raided by the Swiss police at the request of United States authorities, and her electronic devices were seized. People used…

How such supposedly talented hacker end up to be doxxed? It's not that hard to become 99.99% anonymous online...

crimew's stated viewpoint and goals are "radical transparency". Hiding her legal name would go against this goal. It has nothing to do with competency and everything to do with her worldview.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by some_furry » Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 1:19 PM UTC

dekken_ wrote: post #472

some_furry wrote: post #456

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They could also be talking about the Apple email leak caused by incrementing an UUID. There's probably other notable cases with the same failure mode. One of the things you learn working in computer security: history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

> history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. I do like Mark Twain

Ah, yeah, that's where I heard it from first. Thanks!