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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by _yb2s »

rqtwteye wrote: post #42
googlryas wrote: post #11

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I wish we just used “they” always. I am fine with people not wanting certain pronouns but I find it very tedious to track different pronouns in my head. Especially in a professional setting gender shouldn’t matter at all.

I have found ways to almost always write and talk with gender neutral pronouns, without sounding too weird. After working with colleagues that use gender neutral pronouns, I find myself being careful not to assume any gender specific pronouns, which means in most cases just not using them.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by ccn0p »

ectopod wrote: post #65
eli wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish everyone was just named James. I had a good friend named James and it’s much easier to call everyone that than to learn a bunch of individual names.

The whole point of pronouns is to reduce cognitive overhead. If pronouns become something you have to remember for each person then you might as well drop them from the language and use names all the time.

Totally. Or use X for everyone. No overloading of common words well understood to be something completely different.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by Scoundreller »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #32

From the accompanying (and linked) Daily Dot article[1]: > On the list were several notable figures, including the recently freed Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout, alongside over 16 potential aliases for him. > [...] > Numerous names included aliases that were common misspellings or slightly altered versions of their names. For non-natively-Latin names, the US government is thorough to the point of hilarity in includi…

It’s bad in Canada too, where they don’t even use dates of birth, so small children end up caught on a no-fly-list:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/no-fly-child-redress-1...

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by dangerlibrary »

javajosh wrote: post #69
eli wrote: post #56

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I wish everyone was just named James. I had a good friend named James and it’s much easier to call everyone that than to learn a bunch of individual names.

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I don't disagree with you in principle, but this take ignores the boots-on-the-ground reality for trans and nonbinary people.

Trans and nonbinary people are using this as a shibboleth to determine whether they can feel safe around you. You are not someone who wishes nonbinary or trans people harm, but unfortunately, there is a large segment of the population that does. The act of using someone's preferred pronouns is an act of saying "you are safe with me, I do not wish you harm." This is not a default or automatic assumption they can make, as it likely is for you.

Many trans and nonbinary people, through no fault of their own, have PTSD from how they've been treated by others. Even those that have not experienced hatred or violence directly are no doubt aware of the statistics.[0] You're correct that, in many cases, this is a mental health problem. It's an accommodation for a colleague or friend that needs your help, for now.

I have trans relatives and colleagues, and several I knew before they came out / transitioned. They've been understanding and patient when I have made mistakes, just as any normal person would be. It's not about hating people - in either direction. It's about treating people with kindness and respect and reminding those who are scared that you are on their side.

[0] https://time.com/3999348/transgender-murders-2015/

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by verall »

javajosh wrote: post #69
eli wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish everyone was just named James. I had a good friend named James and it’s much easier to call everyone that than to learn a bunch of individual names.

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> I don't respect people's pronoun preferences because that would be creating reasons to hate people

This has got to be peak hacker news

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by jeffchien »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #63
jeffchien wrote: post #38

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I think you may not be reading the parent comment correctly. They're saying that those on the list have a right to privacy, therefore outright leaking the list is wrong. Being able to find out whether or not you are on the list is not incompatible with maintaining others' right to privacy.

I am reading it correctly. They do not have a right to privacy, because we all have the right to know who the government is keeping on lists. Regardless the line of thinking reeks with hypocrisy - the government of the United States has been doing nothing but trampling privacy, yet when it comes to top secret government surveillance state programmes they hold it close to their chests

I don't understand your reasoning. To me, you seem to be saying that since the state violated everyone's privacy, the general public now has the right to violate these individuals' privacy even further to get back at the state.

Publishing the list as-is would also imply that you believe the state is infallible and can't err when putting people on this list. There are thousands of people out there who have redress numbers because they have the same name as someone on the list. Can you imagine if getting a redress number is necessary for employment? Leaking the list would ironically increase the state's control.

(edit: Again, I'm not disagreeing with letting individuals find out if they themselves are on the list, just disagreeing with the method)

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by piperswe »

Klonoar wrote: post #54
mrsuprawsm wrote: post #24

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US law is neither a universal law nor an international one. Accessing computer systems owned by a US company based in the US might constitute a violation of US law, but the hacker is based in Switzerland - where US law does not apply. As you can see in the linked Wikipedia article, accessing these systems is probably not illegal in Switzerland, thus, for all intents and purposes, no crime was committed.

Switzerland has assisted the USA in going after them, unless I'm missing something. (I am open to missing something here)

According to its Wikipedia page [1], Switzerland doesn't extradite their nationals (including maia) without consent. maia might be trapped in Switzerland, but as long as it stays there the US can't get to it.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew

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Post by cldellow »

javajosh wrote: post #69
eli wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish everyone was just named James. I had a good friend named James and it’s much easier to call everyone that than to learn a bunch of individual names.

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> suffering

> cynical user of a tool of coercive soft-power

> weapon masquerading as a new morality

Take with a grain of salt, but I feel like you have stronger emotions on this issue than the trans and non-binary people I know.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by belval »

richwater wrote: post #47

I love the implication that this random person should be the authority on whether or not I can see the no-fly list.

I mean she pretty much explains the whole process of getting it. If you're willing to get prosecuted just go get it yourself.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Post by joshmn »

JonathonW wrote: post #21
Waterluvian wrote: post #12

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

"It" is not generally used in English to refer to people, and generally carries a dehumanizing or even pejorative connotation when used to refer to a person (it's not unheard of to see "it" used as a slur against binary trans people, for example-- using "it" in place of preferred pronouns). Use "it" if someone specifically requests that "it" be used to refer to them. Don't if they do not.

My mom called me "it" for the first two weeks after I was born. She wasn't sure on a name.

Exception not the rule, but made me giggle reading your comment.

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