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How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Yeah cause we should totally have a top secret no fly list

Maybe we should or shouldn't, but the potential victims of this aren't just some greedy corporation. Leaking the no fly list could cause irreparable harm to individuals whose names are on it or even similar, causing discrimination by employers and other organizations.

Top secret stazi lists should absolutely be shared. It's why we have 'we have right to know' laws, so the government can't just lock people up in a jail and disappear them.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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Headline buries the real lede a bit in my opinion; the author has gotten a snapshot of the no-fly list from 2019. Presumably the system under attack processes more up-to-date versions of it regularly. Corresponding news story: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/no-fly-list-us-tsa-unprotecte...

I wonder which no-fly list it is. Is it a government no-fly list that would contain suspected international criminals and terrorists, or an airline's private no-fly list that would contain people who cause a ruckus on flights, drunks, anti-maskers, and so on. Maybe one shared between airlines? I would imagine that second list has grown substantially since 2020 given all the craziness airlines have had to deal with since then.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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> with pretty much no skill required Seriously? I know like none of the tools or terms they used, like wtf is shodan? In general the author doesn't seem to follow the white hat guidelines, and I'd be worried what they've done is quite illegal (possibly on a federal level if the nofly list is so secret)

"Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone. Panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect immortal machine?" — Shodan

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

> if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender

Hasn’t it always been the case that you could use “they” as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender?

I seem to recall that “they” has been in use in that manner long before non-binary arguments were something I’d heard about.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

No - please do not use "it" as a catch-all pronoun for an unknown person. "It" is generally a dehumanizing term for a transgender person - though a minority use it as a pronoun (in those cases, go for it).

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

> if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender Hasn’t it always been the case that you could use “they” as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender? I seem to recall that “they” has been in use in that manner long before non-binary arguments were something I’d heard about.

I feel like I learned that the Chicago style guide, for example, embraced that only a handful of years ago.

Re: How to own an airline in 3 easy steps and grab the TSA nofly list along the way

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I’m curious to learn: if “they” is being added to style guides as a way to refer to a singular human without implying any gender, is “it” the same or is there a somewhat different meaning behind the usage?

No - please do not use "it" as a catch-all pronoun for an unknown person. "It" is generally a dehumanizing term for a transgender person - though a minority use it as a pronoun (in those cases, go for it).

I’m not asking if they’re interchangeable. Just if “it” differs from “they” in some way in the above context where it sounds like that’s the individual’s preferred pronoun?

Yes, calling someone “it” has been a ridiculously offensive thing to do in my life experience.

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