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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I've been waiting over a year for this. My M1 8GB is simply not up to spec for iOS Dev work. Apple Store literally had nothing with 16GB when I had to buy it. I asked about when they could get one in -- Apple store assistant told me it would be at least 3 months. This was in Ireland during Covid. For reference my 2016 MacBook Pro had 16GB RAM so it was surprising to me that 6 years later I would be unable to buy one…

is 16Gb m2 pro enough for iOS+Android Dev work?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #977

Unfortunately no AV1 hardware support yet. Not sure why Apple isn't rushing to add support for the codec they helped create.

>Not sure why Apple isn't rushing to add support for the codec they helped create. Because they didn't help to create it.

> The governing members of the Alliance for Open Media are Amazon, Apple, ARM, Cisco, Facebook, Google, Huawei, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Nvidia, Samsung Electronics and Tencent.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Open_Media

Not sure why you think that

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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For both iOS and Macos (and Windows for that matter) it's a good idea to backup everything and reinstall the OS from scratch for each major version. Yes it's a headache but it will prevent 10x more headaches that result from upgrading from a previous major version. Many of the problems people have with Apple OS upgrades are issues that happen during the process of converting configurations from one version to the nex…

I do a full macOS reinstall approx 1.5 years, depending on external factors, mostly to be able to clean up obsolete apps/packages/etc (after the reinstall I move everything into a "Old machine" folder and only move back what I need. only drawback is winding up with an "Oldmac" folder inside the "Oldmac" folder inside the "Oldmac..." well one day I'll clear those up) But I've never felt like needing to do that with iO…

Battery drain. I managed a big fleet of iOS devices around the iOS 6 to iOS 10 time period when battery drain was a common complaint (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13054056). Completely wiping the phone and setting it back up without restoring the backup fixed those battery drain issues 100% of the time. If you wiped the phone and restored the iCloud backup the battery drain would persist because you restored whatever glitched config file was causing it.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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This used to be the standard advice for MS Windows. Funny to think that it's now Apple who have this problem.

This is still worth doing occasionally on Windows, but iOS users have never had to do this, and there's been no reason for Mac users to do this since the System 7 (pre-Mac OS X) days. Some habits die hard, though.

I managed a big fleet of iOS devices (hundreds) around the iOS 6 to iOS 10 time period when battery drain was a common complaint (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13054056). Completely wiping the phone and setting it back up without restoring the backup fixed those battery drain issues 100% of the time. If you wiped the phone and restored the iCloud backup the battery drain would persist because you restored whatever glitched config file was causing it.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #977

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>Not sure why Apple isn't rushing to add support for the codec they helped create. Because they didn't help to create it.

> The governing members of the Alliance for Open Media are Amazon, Apple , ARM, Cisco, Facebook, Google, Huawei, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Nvidia, Samsung Electronics and Tencent. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Open_Media Not sure why you think that

They are there now, but are they founding members? Did they push for av1 anywhere? It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal".

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #985

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> The governing members of the Alliance for Open Media are Amazon, Apple , ARM, Cisco, Facebook, Google, Huawei, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Nvidia, Samsung Electronics and Tencent. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Open_Media Not sure why you think that

They are there now, but are they founding members? Did they push for av1 anywhere? It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal".

They aren't founding members, sure, but they are governing members. I doubt they'd be allowed lead the organization built around AV1 without helping it in some way.

> It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal".

Yeah, I really hope this isn't the case. A universal, free, open codec like AV1 would be great to have.

There is some evidence[1] of Apple adding support at least.

[1] https://www.neowin.net/news/apple-may-finally-be-adding-av1-...

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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> It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. Sure, but developing with Java up-to-16 is much slower with M1/M2 due to ports not being available, and Rosetta having to emulate. Datapoint: We develop plugins for Confluence and it’s about 1 minute to load each page. I don’t think developing Java 11 is a corner case of using a Mac.

ARM builds have been available for a while now even for Java 11. * AWS Corretto: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/corretto/latest/corretto-11-ug/d... * Eclipse Temurin: https://adoptium.net/temurin/releases/?version=11 * IBM Semeru: https://developer.ibm.com/languages/java/semeru-runtimes/dow... * Oracle GraalVM: https://github.com/graalvm/graalvm-ce-builds/releases/tag/vm...

Thank you. You saved us dozens of hours.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #985

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They are there now, but are they founding members? Did they push for av1 anywhere? It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal".

They aren't founding members, sure, but they are governing members. I doubt they'd be allowed lead the organization built around AV1 without helping it in some way. > It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal". Yeah, I really hope this isn't the case. A universal, free, open codec like AV1 would be g…

They are part of AOM, but they didn't help create AV1, the video codec.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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USB4 supports DP 1.4a tunneling and DP 2.0 in DP "alternate mode". Agree with you, but I fear dedicated DP ports are dying.

I guess my main point is that, if we're going to move to displayport over USB-C, we (A) need Apple to put out official $100 cables, since I tried some cheap Amazon cables that didn't work and had to purchase some $60 moshi cables that I knew would work[0], and (B) they need a minimum of 5 ports since being limited to 1 peripheral port+3 monitors (2 over DP, one HDMI) on the mini is terrible. I know they want your mou…

For your information: AmazonBasics cables are very reliable and reasonably priced. You can get an USB-C to DisplayPort cable from them for around 10 bucks and you should have a lot less trouble with it.

In my experience spending big on video cables is only necessary for large distance and bandwidth requirements (like HDMI at 2160p60 over 20 meters).

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #988

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They aren't founding members, sure, but they are governing members. I doubt they'd be allowed lead the organization built around AV1 without helping it in some way. > It seems their AOM membership is mostly a signal to the license cartels that eventually "paying for codecs is not going to be ok, unless you give us a good deal". Yeah, I really hope this isn't the case. A universal, free, open codec like AV1 would be g…

They are part of AOM, but they didn't help create AV1 , the video codec.

Do you have a source for that?
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