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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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>Based upon current trends countries like Poland and Slovakia are going to overtake the UK on many economic metrics I'll believe that when I see it >the enmourous decline of the UK relative to places like Germany, France The UK, Germany and France are declining in lockstep, actually. In different ways but all declining >the US Yes this is the killer.

Genuinely curious: why/how are these countries declining in your view?

brexit was - from an economic suprarational viewpoint - obviously a non-forced error. the resentment that eventually got channeled into this populist surge is very real and stems from the same deepening inequality that plagues the US and other globalizing economies.

people scraping by outside London see the decades going by and their lot not improving, and eventually the busy beavers crafting messages found the right ones ("the UK is paying so and so much pounds every day to the EU instead of funding the NHS more")

this solved nothing, people scraping by still have low economic productivity. infrastructure development outside London is late by decades (because every time there was a cost increase it slowed down basically, and there were a lot of cost increases - every recession, interest rate cut, Baumol effect, etc meant costs going up)

similarly development inside big cities is stunted because of cost increases.

because a lot of globalization made local services relatively more expensive (this is the Baumol effect basically) and all the affected areas are very labor heavy: NHS (healthcare), education, construction.

then all this recently culminated in idiots getting elected (Boris Johnson, etc) who then made things worse by not doing anything.

https://noahpinion.substack.com/p/why-the-uk-is-having-an-ec... - in this paywalled post Noah argues that the UK is going through a mild version of the emerging economy crisis (like Sri Lanka), because its import dependent, trade deficit, capital flight, pegged currency (basically for price stability the Bank of England has to), and lots of borrowing in foreign currency (USD, EUR), and accelerating inflation

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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As it is, the integer scale is 1512x982, which many websites think (including some you might build!) is a tablet. That's odd, I've never noticed that on my 14". Websites usually choose layouts according to width and 1512 is well into desktop territory. the Air's resolution is more mainstream and usable The Air is 2560x1664, and at the default (non-integer, so less sharp) scaling it presents as 1470x956 which is also…

It's pretty rare; usually it's in the form of a sidebar defaulting to collapsed or a hamburger instead of nav buttons. The main thing is you can't have anything else taking up horizontal space.

(Outside the edit window)

Edit: I wrote this elsewhere but the DPI is low enough that native is usable for me. I might bump it down a notch, but dunno.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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The lack of dedicated DisplayPort ports is fairly disappointing to me since their implementation is just "native DisplayPort output over USB‑C" and it doesn't support MST, so you can only do one displayport signal per port, even with a thunderbolt 4 hub with some bidirectional USB-C Displayport cables.

USB4 supports DP 1.4a tunneling and DP 2.0 in DP "alternate mode". Agree with you, but I fear dedicated DP ports are dying.

They never really took off on laptops to begin with. However most PC GPUs are still majority DP despite USB C being tried as an easy connector for VR headsets and most monitors use a mix of DP/HDMI.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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There's also a new Mac Mini, which I found A LOT MORE interesting, given that its keyboard or batteries won't break: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/01/apple-introduces-new-...

I was thinking about throwing some last gen parts into an old tower/PSU I have to build a desktop for inlaws since they are stuck on a 10year old hand down laptop. This is a good package at that price (599$) - power consumption is likely nothing, MacOS included in price, small and quiet - will comfortably browse the internet, play videos, etc. for the next 5+ years. I won't be able to repair it out of warranty so tha…

185W is nothing? My Haswell desktop with dedicated GPU, ssd and two spinning hard drives maxes at 140W

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I still run a 2017 MacBook Pro with the 2.9 GHz i7 (admittedly with a recent keyboard replacement.) I only do office productivity stuff on it. The heavy lifting is done on my Dell Xeon desktop workstation. Anyway I'm looking at the M2 mini. That would be cool to poke around with. I'll keep the MacBook Pro as it still runs stellar and with the new battery, I can run all day with careful use.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I was thinking about throwing some last gen parts into an old tower/PSU I have to build a desktop for inlaws since they are stuck on a 10year old hand down laptop. This is a good package at that price (599$) - power consumption is likely nothing, MacOS included in price, small and quiet - will comfortably browse the internet, play videos, etc. for the next 5+ years. I won't be able to repair it out of warranty so tha…

185W is nothing? My Haswell desktop with dedicated GPU, ssd and two spinning hard drives maxes at 140W

Where are you getting that number ? Just going on M2 MB Air battery lifetime I'd say you're an order of magnitude off.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201897

Mac mini (M1, 2020) Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 2TB SSD Power Consumption Idle Max 6.8 W 39 W

This is 16GB/2TB model, entry level spec should be even lower.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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185W is nothing? My Haswell desktop with dedicated GPU, ssd and two spinning hard drives maxes at 140W

Where are you getting that number ? Just going on M2 MB Air battery lifetime I'd say you're an order of magnitude off. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201897 Mac mini (M1, 2020) Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 2TB SSD Power Consumption Idle Max 6.8 W 39 W This is 16GB/2TB model, entry level spec should be even lower.

https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/specs/

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I'm waiting for HN to reach a consensus so that I can decide whether to buy this one or the M1 MBP.

Honestly, unless there is any specific feature added that you find important (the wifi update or whatnot), a refurbushed/discounted m1 pro seems like a no-brainer choice under a more restricted budget.
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