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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by geodel »

killingtime74 wrote: post #814
djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

How come in all these new announcement threads there is always someone talking about how their current setup is great. Good for you, really happy for you. It's not really relevant to the discussion right?

Its relevant because if current setup for people in various scenarios is working great more folks can compare their requirement relevant to them. They may decide to go for newer version which can be even better or buy older version if available and save some money in process.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by factsarelolz »

csdvrx wrote: post #280
factsarelolz wrote: post #126

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You use a touch screen and pen on something other than a nonfoldable/tablet? Interesting. Thanks for the share.

Depending on how I hold my laptop, yes I like to click and scroll with my finger, especially when taking notes or mindmapping. @temptemptemp111 you seem to be shadowbanned, but your comment is spot on: OLED is about comfort. Sometimes I like working at night, sometimes in the daytime. I want a gorgeous screen that doesn't hurt my eyes, that can go very bright or very dark. Having a powerful CPU is irrelevant when wor…

> I refuse to use or carry a cellphone

> integrated cellular connectivity enable me to spend 1h at a coffee shop without wifi

So you go a hour + without the ability to make phone calls or return texts? Can you dial 911 on your laptop if an emergency happens while on the way to the coffee shop? Does the coffee shop not have Wi-Fi or do you not use public Wi-Fi? How much is the additional data line for your laptop? Is it just data or voice too?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by darkteflon »

Razengan wrote: post #788
darkteflon wrote: post #678

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To reiterate your point about RAM for anyone wondering: don’t get the 8gb version! I’ve run 3 Apple Silicon Macs in different configs since 2020. Real-world performance on a range of different workloads is substantially worse than the 16gb version. Don’t even think about having more than one user logged in!

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Geez, it's just an anecdote, clearly. No need to throw that language around.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by ideonode »

jonplackett wrote: post #711
djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

I’d be so up for a 16 inch ‘air’. I so love my M1 Pro Max MacBook, but Christ it’s heavy. It’s heavier, and I think thicker, than my 2012 MacBook Pro. Now I expected it to be heavier, but was expecting it to drop back maybe one iteration to MacBook 2014 kind of heft. But we’re a full decade back of beefiness. I need a big screen though so it’s the only option. Unless they make a nice thin 16 inch air. I am pretty con…

I sympathise. I have a 16in M1 Max, coming from an LG Gram 17. I can't fault the power of it, but the heft isn't ideal for me.

I'd welcome a 15in or 16in Air. The rumour mill suggests a 15in Air is in the works. However, I'm now used to the 120Hz display of the Max, which I suspect wouldn't be an option for the non-pro models...

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by gateorade »

LeanderK wrote: post #778
godzillabrennus wrote: post #747

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I have used the 2020 M1 air with 8Gb since last summer without any issues as a documents/productivity suite and web application development tool. There are zero complaints here. I had a Core i9 with 16GB of ram MBP before it. This feels just as fast.

I have an really old macbook pro (mid 2014) with 8 gigs of ram. I am regularly running out of ram, I think it should be independent of processing power, right? Or is there some other way it feels snappier? Maybe the SSD got so fast it can better handle memory pressure...or you just don't need more than 8 gigs and it wasn't a limiting factor before

The SSDs in the apple silicon machines are likely much much faster than whatever you have in your macbook pro so when they do spill over into swap it would be much less noticeable. That being said, I'm pretty pro apple silicon (purchased an M2 Pro this morning) and I would never recommend anyone buy a new computer with less than 16GB of ram unless the usecase is strictly web browsing/streaming/ms word type stuff.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by nicoburns »

ako wrote: post #774
mdasen wrote: post #545

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Yea, I upgraded to an M1 Pro and it's truly amazing. I used to always look at benchmarks and always want to upgrade to the newest thing that was coming out. Now I have a laptop that feels like it just works. It doesn't get hot, I've never heard the fan, and just so many of the typical worries/concerns just aren't there for me anymore. Yesterday, there was an article about Intel showing off a "35 watt" chip that was b…

Stories like yours made me upgrade my home computer to an iPad Air 2022. It’s basically an M1 laptop with a touch screen, and when you pair it with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and attach it to an external display, it feels like a full pc.

> it feels like a full pc

The hardware is basically equivalent, but unfortunately that's far from the case with the software. It's definitely useable as a home computer if you mainly browse the web or use office apps. But there's a lot of software that just isn't supported on the ipad. It would be pretty useless for me as a software developer.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by geerlingguy »

PakG1 wrote: post #751
djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

How is the heat? I've heard from anecdotal reports that under heavy workloads, the M2 Air can get super hot, and so Pro is the way to go if you're using heavy workloads. But you're doing music/photo production, etc, so I wonder if you agree. I know that's not the same as video.

If you do sustained work, like render or transcode video, the Air only goes full tilt for 5-10 minutes then starts throttling until you stop doing the heavy work.

If that's something you do more than once in a while, definitely opt for the Pro. For any other workload that's less than maxing out CPUs, or just bursty, the Air has been excellent.

I still think the M1 Air was a better value overall. And I liked the curves to it more than the M2's boxy design.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by darkteflon »

gateorade wrote: post #825
LeanderK wrote: post #778

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an really old macbook pro (mid 2014) with 8 gigs of ram. I am regularly running out of ram, I think it should be independent of processing power, right? Or is there some other way it feels snappier? Maybe the SSD got so fast it can better handle memory pressure...or you just don't need more than 8 gigs and it wasn't a limiting factor before

The SSDs in the apple silicon machines are likely much much faster than whatever you have in your macbook pro so when they do spill over into swap it would be much less noticeable. That being said, I'm pretty pro apple silicon (purchased an M2 Pro this morning) and I would never recommend anyone buy a new computer with less than 16GB of ram unless the usecase is strictly web browsing/streaming/ms word type stuff.

Yep, you'll definitely still notice swapping on the 8gb version.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by djtriptych »

PakG1 wrote: post #751
djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

How is the heat? I've heard from anecdotal reports that under heavy workloads, the M2 Air can get super hot, and so Pro is the way to go if you're using heavy workloads. But you're doing music/photo production, etc, so I wonder if you agree. I know that's not the same as video.

Well I do light music production - mostly on the Studio.

For photography work it's been fine. But I haven't done multiple-minute exports since buying it so I can't really say.

I _can_ say that under my normal workloads (coding web apps, office applications open, chrome with say 20 tabs, often playing chess, live streaming / zoom) heat has never been an issue. It's also my DJ computer for gigs and no issues I've noticed there, although it's not on my lap.

Contrasted with the 2019 intel MBP it's again night and day. Heat was very noticeable, as were heat-related throttling issues. It would just grind to a halt under normal workday loads esp when screen casting zoom + having all my normal apps and IDEs running.

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