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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by kccqzy »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

Speaking of form factor I am really surprised more people don't want an Air. My work laptop (purchased by my employer) was an Air in the Intel days, and I loved it even though it was dog slow. It didn't bother me because I basically only need a browser and ssh. And, I bike to work so weight reduction matters.

Nowadays after the Apple Silicon transition my employer no longer offered an Air. The reason was too few employees wanted it and it was too much trouble to maintain a separate SKU in the inventory for the few of us. Really quite a bummer.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by bubblethink »

Lio wrote: post #792
bubblethink wrote: post #710

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>they're still roughly a similar ball park The PC industry uses wildly inflated prices, especially MSRP. A more realistic price for laptops can be found on various deal sites. A comparable Dell, Lenovo, or HP laptop will cost about .5-.6 of the equivalent macbook pro price. The vast majority of laptops, even after accounting for 1-2 TB of storage and 32 GB RAM cost less than $1.5k. MBPs start around $2k.

That’s interesting could post a specific comparison? I’ve actually been considering an M1 MBP from a deal site in the UK. They seem to be about £300 off MSRP at the moment.

Not too familiar with the UK market, but in the US, various AMD Thinkpad T14(s)/T16/P16 gen 3 configurations as well as some HP elitebook ones were in the 1-1.5k price bracket around Black Friday. I got an elitebook 845 g9 with 6850 HS and added a 2 TB nvme ssd and 64 GB RAM to it as aftermarket purchases for a total of ~$1200 after tax, additional warranty and a thunderbolt dock.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by coder543 »

cbsmith wrote: post #800
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> For a lot of legitimate use cases, there are at least half a dozen Windows laptops coming out right now that I would instantly pick over a MacBook, and the same would not have been said 2 years ago. Would you mind listing a couple? I'd prefer to buy a Windows machine for my next laptop, but I've been SO burned by hibernation bugs, CPU throttling, battery issues, etc. And I've had an OG 13" M1 MBP from work for the…

> Would you mind listing a couple? I'd prefer to buy a Windows machine for my next laptop, but I've been SO burned by hibernation bugs, CPU throttling, battery issues, etc. Those have a huge tie in with the software, so I wouldn't expect hardware innovation to help.

CPU throttling and battery issues aren’t necessarily related to software at all, but “battery issues” is very nebulous, and I expect (problematic) CPU throttling to be less of an issue with the more efficient chips and cooling solutions that we have now.

I didn’t bother addressing those points because it’s hard to know where things were going wrong without a lot more detail.

Sleep issues are definitely a hallmark of Windows Modern Standby, but one might hope that will be addressed soon. Supposedly Microsoft is looking into it now.

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Post by killingtime74 »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

How come in all these new announcement threads there is always someone talking about how their current setup is great. Good for you, really happy for you. It's not really relevant to the discussion right?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by Uehreka »

cbsmith wrote: post #795
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In the beginning I thought the “performance per watt” thing was just folks who want Apple to be better clinging to a stat that made it look like that was the case. But in late 2021 I was long overdue for an upgrade, so I got an M1 Max MacBook Pro and holy hell, now I get it. The battery lasts stupid long. Like, the fact that I can bring this thing on a plane or train without worrying if they’ll have working electric…

I'm not sure I'd attribute that much to the CPU design though. On a typical laptop, CPU power consumption is <20% of the picture.

Well in that case: whether it’s the CPU, or the way CPU/GPU/RAM are tightly coupled on the SoC, or the 4Kish MiniLED screen (which never seems to be dim), or some sort magic glue between the battery cells… Apple is doing something spectacular, and other manufacturers need to figure out how to do it too.

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Post by tibbon »

mittermayr wrote: post #38

There's also a new Mac Mini, which I found A LOT MORE interesting, given that its keyboard or batteries won't break: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/01/apple-introduces-new-...

I'm likely going to order one of their Minis with the top CPU option and 32gb ram for audio production here. I've got an 2018 i7 model which is fine, but this one should set me for a _long_ time.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by thinker5555 »

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This may be a stupid question, but does anyone know if you could charge through one of the Thunderbolt ports instead of having to use the magsafe connector? My work uses Macs for all employees, and they've been generous enough to supply me with 2 docking stations (one for office, one for home) that both charge through a Thunderbolt port. I'm due for a MBP upgrade and they were specifically waiting on the M2 Pro/Max v…

Yes, you can charge from any of the USB-C ports. Some discussion here is saying the MagSafe will charge at 140W, while the USB-C ports will only charge at 100W, so it will be a bit slower.

Thanks. I know that was the case with the M1 MBPs, but wasn't sure if that would carry over to the M2 versions, and I didn't see anything about charging via the USB-C ports in the press relese.

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

VLM wrote: post #246
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I'm afriad you are going to need to get used to it. The £ is depreciating against the dollar, and wages in the UK have been stagant for 10+ years and are set to remain stagant for another 10 based upon current forecasting. Based upon current trends countries like Poland and Slovakia are going to overtake the UK on many economic metrics within a generation, which is both a credit to the growth of those countries and t…

Specifically, as a Chinese product, the ratio of UK economy vs Chinese economy is relevant.

Apple products are produced in Chinese Special Economic Zones (SEZs), so they have to be technically imported into China if they are sold there, and are produced with machines and labor paid for in dollars.

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Post by adam_arthur »

gonehome wrote: post #794
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Agreed on form factor, but screen is quite a bit worse quality wise than the Pro. Lower refresh rate, lower density backlighting etc. Would like the Air form factor with the premium screen

Yeah, that's a fair point and probably my only complaint. It's probably necessary (for now) to get the rest of the hardware to be what it is. Probably a high-res high-refresh display would require everything else.

It may be possible with their upcoming micro-led tech, though I'm not familiar with how that impacts form factor/power draw

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Post by bsder »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

> I'm 40+ and keeping extra pounds off my lower back matters for me.

I find that, while more difficult, removing excess poundage from my waistline has a lot more impact on that ... :(

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