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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by PakG1 »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

How is the heat? I've heard from anecdotal reports that under heavy workloads, the M2 Air can get super hot, and so Pro is the way to go if you're using heavy workloads. But you're doing music/photo production, etc, so I wonder if you agree. I know that's not the same as video.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by godzillabrennus »

SiVal wrote: post #732
wpm wrote: post #476

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The 14" M2 Pro is 30% heavier than the M2 Air and 20% thicker. I don't really classify that as "not much". I have a 14" M1 Pro from work and a personal M2 Air and it's always surprising how much heavier the M1 Pro feels from my Air.

Oh, please don't let anyone at Apple hear you complain about "thicker". I'm still not back to trusting them after years of downgrades pretending to be upgrades: "We've made the thinnest, best-looking Mac ever while removing less functionality than we've removed in most previous upgrades!"

My sentiments exactly. Go buy an iPad if you want thin light and all day battery life. I want what Apple is delivering today, real power with real portability, even if it weighs a bit more and happens to have some love handles.

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Post by Firmwarrior »

budoso wrote: post #575
trynewideas wrote: post #517

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It's not? Are you getting A/B tested or something? I see the RTX 6000 Ada and A6000 in both the hero image and the first products listed. The Quadro 6000's a 24GB 4,608 CUDA-core PCIe 3x16 card[1] and the A6000 is a 10,752 CUDA-core 48GB PCIe 4x16 card.[2] I know NVIDIA's branding and product line naming sucks, but those clearly aren't the same cards, or even same generation of card. 1: https://www.nvidia.com/content…

I know its not what you meant, but “are you getting A/B tested or something?” is a pretty great software world roast.

I like how it shows that we all just casually know that everything websites show you is constantly in flux and tailored to a particular person via Orwellian tracking measures

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by SoftTalker »

inadequatespace wrote: post #627
SoftTalker wrote: post #619

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Contrary opinion: I don't see the need for a high-quality camera on a laptop. I can't think of another good use besides Zoom calls and Facetime and the like, when your counterparties in the meeting are all going to be seeing a scaled-down image anyway. Stick in some decent and cheap camera, and put the money into stuff that matters like computing capabilities, RAM, storage, networking, screen, etc.

Any use besides… one of the most common uses of the laptop in general in this remote-work era…

Right, and you don't need an ultra-HD camera for your face to appear in a small tile on someone else's remote screen.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by jb1991 »

eludwig wrote: post #746
breadzeppelin__ wrote: post #666

I am currently waiting to take delivery of a 14" M1 MBP. I assume the move here is to cancel it and order the newer one?

You have 14 days to return it no questions asked. So no worries either way.

Or 30 days if you’re in Europe.

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Post by StreamBright »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #233
StreamBright wrote: post #140

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As a heavy Linux user for two decades I disagree. You can't even talk about Linux vs MacOS because the actual distribution you use matters a lot more than the kernel when you talk about productivity. Using Mint, Elementary or whichever GUI distribution you would like to use with the Linux kernel has completely different tradeoffs in terms of GUI, which implies different productivity levels. There is more. Even with t…

I've been finding that the Budgie desktop is pretty great. Very Mac-like.

I wasn't aware. Thanks for recommending it.

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Post by cramjabsyn »

darkteflon wrote: post #699
grecy wrote: post #683

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Are you able to edit 4k video in FCP on the M2 Air with 16GB? I'm looking to upgrade, and I want to go for the lowest config M mac that I can get away with for smooth 4k edits.

I used FCP on an M1 Air with _8gb_ to edit 4K videos for over a year. Assuming you have enough fast storage (or are happy to use a proxy workflow), it certainly can be done, although everyone’s workflow is different. Assuming no storage speed bottleneck, timeline scrubbing was smooth up to about 2x forward or backward, from memory - after that you hit decoder limits. Proxy workflow gets around that too, though. Rende…

What’s a proxy workflow in this context?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by gnufied »

cpuguy83 wrote: post #392
gnufied wrote: post #46

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I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

I doubt the chassis is adding that much weight. MacBooks are largely battery. The MacBook Air is also significantly lighter than a pro despite having the same basic chassis.

I am not sure. The Thinkpad has 90WH battery and Macbook has 99WH, it is bigger but not 362gm heavier.

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Post by acchow »

kmeisthax wrote: post #266
judge2020 wrote: post #137

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The lack of dedicated DisplayPort ports is fairly disappointing to me since their implementation is just "native DisplayPort output over USB‑C" and it doesn't support MST, so you can only do one displayport signal per port, even with a thunderbolt 4 hub with some bidirectional USB-C Displayport cables.

MST wouldn't be supported even if it had a DisplayPort output. Apple explicitly did not support MST pre-M1 as well.

But it worked if you installed Windows instead. So the hardware supports MST
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