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Post by Oddskar »

taylodl wrote: post #245
Oddskar wrote: post #135

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> They tend to not sacrifice longevity over flashy technologies. Hah! That gave me a good chuckle. There's nothing that screams "longevity" as going out of your way to make all devices utterly irreparable.

My daily driver is the "irreparable" 2012 MBP Retina. You may remember this machine as the one everybody bitched about because the RAM and SSD were soldered into the mainboard and weren't upgradeable or replaceable? Let's see, it's 2023, hmmmm, seems the machine is coming up on 11 years. IDK about you but I think 11 years is incredible longevity for a laptop. You know, it just might be that making the machine "irrepa…

I will take your word for it, obviously your experience is the same for all of the Macbooks of that generation which are still being used today.

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Post by jrochkind1 »

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

I got an MBP for the extra USB ports, magsafe power adapter, and HDMI port alone.

On processing power, I have no doubt the Air would have sufficed.

I was willing to take the weight/size penalty for the ports!

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Post by coding123 »

hk1337 wrote: post #35

How is development setup on the M2? Specifically Docker and Python. Docker VM has always seemed rather meh on my M1 and installing different python versions with pyenv either goes well or has _a lot_ of workarounds.

I was a holdout for a while, but try Podman. I finally upgraded my Intel Mac and it went pretty smoothly. The only thing I recommend to people is ignore the "alias docker=podman" crap you see everywhere. The only true way to make things work well is make a docker symlink (on your path somewhere) to podman. If you do the alias thing you'll quickly discover bash scripts "can't find docker" and you'll end up doing a lot of chopt crap that doesn't work.

That all being said I don't have an M1 (or an M2 for that matter) so I don't know if Podman works "well" on it.

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Post by pseufaux »

dml2135 wrote: post #146
mpeg wrote: post #16

New Mac mini with the M2 Pro maxes out at 32GB memory, that's quite disappointing compared to the Macbook Pro's 96GB. On the other hand, my M2 Macbook Air is one of the best purchases I've made in a long time, great fanless laptop.

I really hope the next Macbook Air supports multiple external monitors, that's the only thing holding me back from it right now. I know there are DisplayLink solutions but not sure how well they would work.

It’s a bit tricky to make sure you have compatible hardware, but my experience of display link has been that it works well once set up.

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

rcarr wrote: post #516

Start at £2149 in the UK. I bought an equivalent M1 last year for £1729. Price increase of £420. About a 25% increase. Wonder if that’s closer to the true inflation figure rather than the official 11% narrative. Regardless, they look like good machines, surprised they went this low key with the announcement.

£1729? M1 Pro was £1899 yesterday and for a very long time, I don't remember ever seeing £1729.

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Post by Arainach »

wpm wrote: post #476
newsclues wrote: post #422

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Your laptop complaints are addressed by the MBP models, which aren't much heavier if that is your primary objection.

The 14" M2 Pro is 30% heavier than the M2 Air and 20% thicker. I don't really classify that as "not much". I have a 14" M1 Pro from work and a personal M2 Air and it's always surprising how much heavier the M1 Pro feels from my Air.

Percentages are misleading in such small absolute numbers. "30%" is 160 grams (0.3 pounds) in this context.

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Post by jyrkesh »

coder543 wrote: post #606
mynameisvlad wrote: post #239

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Apple’s M1 chips already offered improvements compared to their previous generation Intel chips, and Intel hasn’t exactly been innovating in the last 2 years. By all accounts, they have been ahead of Intel, at the very least. I’m not exactly sure how Apple was “behind the state of the art” and has caught up. Can you explain?

> Intel hasn’t exactly been innovating in the last 2 years. What on earth are you talking about?! Alder Lake was a huge step up for Intel, and Raptor Lake has improved things more than I would have expected as well. Before Alder Lake, Intel's CPUs honestly sucked. AMD still seems to have a modest competitive advantage in terms of efficiency and battery life (making AMD not that far off from where Apple is in hours of…

> For a lot of legitimate use cases, there are at least half a dozen Windows laptops coming out right now that I would instantly pick over a MacBook, and the same would not have been said 2 years ago.

Would you mind listing a couple? I'd prefer to buy a Windows machine for my next laptop, but I've been SO burned by hibernation bugs, CPU throttling, battery issues, etc. And I've had an OG 13" M1 MBP from work for the past year or so, and the performance and battery life have been unreal to that point that I'm very much considering one of these 14" M2 MBPs for myself.

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Post by deergomoo »

acchow wrote: post #630
f8 wrote: post #597

I love the MBP with the M1 chip, but my biggest gripe is it lacks dual monitor support natively. I shouldn't have to use DisplayLink to get the second monitor working. Just been working on a single monitor since I got this thing because I heard DisplayLink is a buggy resource hog.

Can you explain what you mean by "lacks dual monitor support natively"? I run two monitors on my MBP M1.

I believe OP has the 13” MacBook Pro, which runs the plain M1 from the Air, not the M1 Pro or Max of the 14” and 16” models.

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Post by Spooky23 »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #389
mk89 wrote: post #241

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I totally agree with you. They are diversifying their laptop/desktop solutions like crazy. Even a Macbook Air can almost compete with the entry-level version of the Macbook Pro, which is great to be honest. I heard they are exceptionally good. Honestly, 7-900$ for a machine that will not get old very soon is not so bad, especially if you already own a screen (which due to WFH you kind of have to have together with a…

"that will not get old very soon" No idea how you can write that with straight fingers.

Lifecycles for Macs are really long. If you don’t buy late in the product cycle, they are usually 6 year devices and work pretty well, with the exception of the butterfly laptops.

If you’re pushing the limits, the lifecycle doesn’t matter as you’ll replace annually or whatever anyway.

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