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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by andrewia » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:24 PM UTC

agloeregrets wrote: post #531

comboy wrote: post #367

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Check out DisplayLink. I'm using multiple monitors with M1 macbook air which officially only supports single external display. Works great so far. I agree with your point though.

I used an M1 Air docked with displaylink for about 8 months. 1. The Displaylink software heats the machine lightly in the background, and it just gets worse with resolution. 2. The Adaptor is unreliable and can do some really wonky stuff around dock and undock due to Apple's locked USB policies. 3. The old series of Adaptors do not support 4K60, so if you plan on using it with a 4K display, you need to pony up on cos…

Not to mention DisplayLink can be broken by MacOS updates. Tunneling video over USB was a clever hack back in the day, but with USB-C and TB3/USB4 docks, things are much less software-dependent.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by nfriedly » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:24 PM UTC

dabernathy89 wrote: post #641

nfriedly wrote: post #609

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I'd recommend taking it into an Apple store and asking them about it. I don't think I've ever in my life seen an SSD with less than 80-90% life left. Something has to have gone wrong for it to have burned up 95% of it's life in ~5 years of normal usage.

IIRC there was an issue early on with the M1 Macs that involved way higher than normal swap usage, and was potentially bad for SSDs. But I thought that was fixed within months.

Yeah, that sounds like a plausible culprit. And I wouldn't consider it outside the realm of possibility for Apple to replace the SSD for free - even if the laptop is now out of warranty.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by orliesaurus » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:25 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #592

Of course I bought a new 14" MBP with M1 Pro two weeks ago. Looks like if i had waited, I could have paid the same price for faster CPU with more cores, faster wifi, and 8K HDMI output. I guess that's how it goes.

in most countries you can return your MBP within 30 days of purchase for free upgrade

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by e40 » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:27 PM UTC

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #389

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I totally agree with you. They are diversifying their laptop/desktop solutions like crazy. Even a Macbook Air can almost compete with the entry-level version of the Macbook Pro, which is great to be honest. I heard they are exceptionally good. Honestly, 7-900$ for a machine that will not get old very soon is not so bad, especially if you already own a screen (which due to WFH you kind of have to have together with a…

"that will not get old very soon" No idea how you can write that with straight fingers.

Last year I went from an Intel Mac Pro (6,1 from 2013) that I used for 8 years to the M1 Studio. I expect to use that for many years to come.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by Aperocky » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:27 PM UTC

djtriptych wrote: post #395

My new setup as of November is an M2 Air (16GB /1 TB) and an base model M1 Studio. I really couldn't be happier. I run a small WFH / Music Production / Photography studio in my basement and I really wanted an always-on always connected computer, for which the Studio has been perfect. The M2 Air is pretty close to a perfect laptop. My complaints (low audio volume, slighty cramped screen) are absolutely dwarfed by the…

I have a M1 air and with basically the same comments. The con is that it's no longer the newest air out there, pro being that I had it since November 2020 and I really don't have a single complaint with the hardware.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by sbuk » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:28 PM UTC

DoingSomeThings wrote: post #589

agloeregrets wrote: post #536

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It's a spec bump, possibly meaningfully so but if you are on an Intel machine or want two monitors and can find a M1 14inch for ~$1500-$1700 that's a killer upgrade no matter what.

Does the M1 14inch support 2 monitors? I was under the impression every M-based laptop only supports a single external monitor.

Yes. Source: Runs an M1 14" Pro on 2 monitors.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by dahfizz » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

StreamBright wrote: post #157

goosedragons wrote: post #75

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They aren't though. The fact that they are ridiculously comparing performance to the 3 year old at this point final Intel MacBook (which was a dog turd) in their press release with some very cherry picked benchmarks suggests things aren't quite as good as they could be. Why are they talking about 3+ old parts and not the current competition?

I am not sure if most people buying MBPs are interested in the synthetic benchmark performance as much as they are interested in energy efficiency and vertical integrations.

Just wait until Apple finally removes the lighting port. I can travel with one cable & wall wart to charge every device I own - that's the future.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by HatchedLake721 » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #592

Of course I bought a new 14" MBP with M1 Pro two weeks ago. Looks like if i had waited, I could have paid the same price for faster CPU with more cores, faster wifi, and 8K HDMI output. I guess that's how it goes.

For the future, this is very useful https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#mac

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by vetinari » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

zedpm wrote: post #418

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #389

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"that will not get old very soon" No idea how you can write that with straight fingers.

I’m still using a 2015 MacBook Pro, and it doesn’t feel slow. I’ve done no repairs or maintenance on it in all that time.

I updated to M1 MBP in 2020 because the 2015 MBP I had previously felt slow, and it got progressively worse with each macOS update.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Post by andrewia » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

kmeisthax wrote: post #266

judge2020 wrote: post #137

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The lack of dedicated DisplayPort ports is fairly disappointing to me since their implementation is just "native DisplayPort output over USB‑C" and it doesn't support MST, so you can only do one displayport signal per port, even with a thunderbolt 4 hub with some bidirectional USB-C Displayport cables.

MST wouldn't be supported even if it had a DisplayPort output. Apple explicitly did not support MST pre-M1 as well.

Yes, although that's a MacOS restriction, and MST is already used in MacOS to carry multiple streams to a single high-resolution monitor. And as Asahi Linux keeps getting more usable, I hope it can be a viable alternative, so Apple's hardware can be used without MacOS's arbitrary restrictions.