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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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iPhone cameras are absurdly thick compare to the thickness of a laptop lid. If you've noticed, they've also gotten even thicker over the year (the camera bump has gotten thicker). Nobody will want a laptop lid as thick as their iPhone + camera bump.

Even the front (selfie) camera?

Yeah. The back camera sits behind the screen whereas the front one pokes through it. I wouldn't be surprised if they were fairly even in terms of thickness.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Your laptop complaints are addressed by the MBP models, which aren't much heavier if that is your primary objection.

The 14" M2 Pro is 30% heavier than the M2 Air and 20% thicker. I don't really classify that as "not much". I have a 14" M1 Pro from work and a personal M2 Air and it's always surprising how much heavier the M1 Pro feels from my Air.

Agreed - it's great that the battery life on the pro is so good now, but that extra weight is, to me, the difference between noticeable and not noticeable.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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These new ARM chips are almost perfect, the only bad part is... ARM. Most backend devs these days use Docker, and serious Docker usage on M1/M2 macs isn't really possible due to bugs and super slow performance. I was doing benchmarks and for our workloads images would build several times slower as well as our test suites. We had many devs in our company buy the shiny macbooks only having to return them due to incompa…

I don't know what you mean about Docker - in my experience it runs just fine on M1.

You must be jocular then. He said serious usage. (In all seriousness, I’ve had few problems as well. Sometimes I have to muck with base images but it’s not a showstopper)

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Of course I bought a new 14" MBP with M1 Pro two weeks ago. Looks like if i had waited, I could have paid the same price for faster CPU with more cores, faster wifi, and 8K HDMI output. I guess that's how it goes.

Aren’t you within the return window?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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It's a spec bump, possibly meaningfully so but if you are on an Intel machine or want two monitors and can find a M1 14inch for ~$1500-$1700 that's a killer upgrade no matter what.

Does the M1 14inch support 2 monitors? I was under the impression every M-based laptop only supports a single external monitor.

I am running two Studio Displays off of my M1 Pro 14-inch

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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post #622

These new ARM chips are almost perfect, the only bad part is... ARM. Most backend devs these days use Docker, and serious Docker usage on M1/M2 macs isn't really possible due to bugs and super slow performance. I was doing benchmarks and for our workloads images would build several times slower as well as our test suites. We had many devs in our company buy the shiny macbooks only having to return them due to incompa…

I don't know what you mean about Docker - in my experience it runs just fine on M1.

They are talking about running production x64 Docker containers, which is slow on M1.

If you're using ARM64 containers, then it works pretty well, for the most part.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

#637

These new ARM chips are almost perfect, the only bad part is... ARM. Most backend devs these days use Docker, and serious Docker usage on M1/M2 macs isn't really possible due to bugs and super slow performance. I was doing benchmarks and for our workloads images would build several times slower as well as our test suites. We had many devs in our company buy the shiny macbooks only having to return them due to incompa…

Docker for ARM Macs should be improved with the latest update:

> Yesterday a new @Docker For Mac version was released that will virtualize Intel containers with Rosetta instead of emulating them.

https://twitter.com/tobias_petry/status/1613837074356129792

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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In fairness, Apple's claim is that no laptop can do it, and to that angle they are correct.

Would an eGPU enable certain laptops to do this? I get that that's 'cheating', but also is it? I need a shit ton of peripherals to run my Mac workstation

Well, you would need a GPU with 96GB of VRAM, might be able to do multiple eGPUs, not sure...but that still would hit major throughput limits.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Will this computer finally support daisy-chaining? Also known as Multi-Stream Transport (MST), it's from the DisplayPort 1.2 spec. It's the ability to connecting two displays via one cable. Any 5+ year old PC has support for it. But your $3,000 Macbook Pro doesn't.

Well the OS level support for multiple monitors us essentially user-hostile so not sure why you would try this anyway. I gave up on dual monitors as soon as Ultrawides became available and my Mac life is better for it.
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