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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Just look at the Ventura settings window dude. How are they so sloppy that it cannot even scale properly, not commenting here about how ugly the experience is. At least make it scale a bit. Oh, and I did not say that it even has a lag when it loads, on a fresh login with no apps.

IMHO Ventura's rethink is a huge improvement — search is now actually useful, 3rd-party extensibility is much better, etc. (It does scale vertically, BTW. The old one did not.)

Snappy it is not. I think they’ve used the latest UX pattern called ‘click & wait’

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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In the feature list, the most underwhelming item to me is the '1080p FaceTime HD camera'. Aren't pretty much all cameras at least 1080p by now? I'd expect a top of the line laptop to have a multi-megapixel camera able to push 240fps for slowmo and windowing abilities to allow software zoom while still outputting a high enough resolution feed that someone viewing on another macbook pro can't see the pixels (ie. more t…

My understanding is that it's actually quite difficult to fit a high quality camera into a laptop lid. If you look at how thin the lid is you'll notice it's at least twice as thin as a cell phone.

Doesn't stop them using compound-eye like designs... They can be very thin and have 100+ 'cameras' over just a few square millimeters, all using the same CCD.

As a bonus, they (after a bit of processing) output 3d information, allowing them to use the same system for face ID etc.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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Will this computer finally support daisy-chaining? Also known as Multi-Stream Transport (MST), it's from the DisplayPort 1.2 spec.

It's the ability to connecting two displays via one cable.

Any 5+ year old PC has support for it. But your $3,000 Macbook Pro doesn't.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

#585

In the feature list, the most underwhelming item to me is the '1080p FaceTime HD camera'. Aren't pretty much all cameras at least 1080p by now? I'd expect a top of the line laptop to have a multi-megapixel camera able to push 240fps for slowmo and windowing abilities to allow software zoom while still outputting a high enough resolution feed that someone viewing on another macbook pro can't see the pixels (ie. more t…

With the recent developments in real-time video upscaling, maybe higher resolution cameras will be made obsolete for video calls, the main use case of laptop cameras.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I bought a MBP 14 (max 32, 32GB, 2TB) Dec 2021 and I mostly don't regret it (probably should've only gotten 24 GPU cores and gone silver). Here are some pros and cons I don't think get enough play: - Turning on "Low Power Mode" when on Battery gives me roughly 10h of battery life. Functionally this is more than good enough for me. - Backlight leakage around the keys feels janky - It's pretty hard to pick it up unless…

Yes, M1 Air still kills it. I use one for app development, and the gains of Pro just aren't worth it. Plus it's superlight and fanless, and can easily drive 1440p screen at 165hz, so I don't even miss the high fps screen.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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No idea why they don't just stick one of the iPhone cameras in there. Heck, use the last gen camera. If the camera isn't too big for the iphone then it's not too big for a laptop- especially with the notch.

iPhone cameras are absurdly thick compare to the thickness of a laptop lid. If you've noticed, they've also gotten even thicker over the year (the camera bump has gotten thicker). Nobody will want a laptop lid as thick as their iPhone + camera bump.

Even the front (selfie) camera?

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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> With up to 96GB of unified memory in the M2 Max model, creators can work on scenes so large that PC laptops can’t even run them.4 ... > 4. Testing was conducted by Apple in November and December 2022 using preproduction 16-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M2 Max, 12-core CPU, 38-core GPU, 96GB of RAM, and 8TB SSD, as well as a production Intel Core i9-based PC system with NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 graphics with 24G…

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Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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I'm waiting for HN to reach a consensus so that I can decide whether to buy this one or the M1 MBP.

It's a spec bump, possibly meaningfully so but if you are on an Intel machine or want two monitors and can find a M1 14inch for ~$1500-$1700 that's a killer upgrade no matter what.

Does the M1 14inch support 2 monitors? I was under the impression every M-based laptop only supports a single external monitor.

Re: MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

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It's worrying that they are shying away from specifying generational improvements or at least comparing to it's competitors. The "fastest Intel MacBook" is not really the competitor for an M2 MacBook Pro, it's a predecessor. But I'd rather hear about generational improvements from M1, especially because both Intel and AMD seem to be making great strides in the low power space lately.

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