MacBook Pro featuring M2 Pro and M2 Max

Post by bdlowery » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

gamesbrainiac wrote: post #424

> New MacBook Pro features up to 6x faster performance than fastest Intel-based MacBook Pro This seems like a cheap shot, if I'm being honest.

Post by dmitryminkovsky » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

itslennysfault wrote: post #332

optymizer wrote: post #153

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The hardware is indeed great. The software experience is getting worse imo, particularly when upgrading. It used to be rock solid for me. The m1 worked without any issues for 2 months. I upgraded yesterday to macOS Ventura: * Upgrade finished but laptop froze. Hard reset. * On first boot, the new System Settings failed to load icons, then froze. Trying to quit it froze the OS. Hard reset. * I left the laptop plugged…

I feel like people have ALWAYS had problems when upgrading MacOS (or OSX). However, those problems aren't with the OS itself usually, but 3rd party software that lags. For that reason I always intentionally lag 1 major version behind. I'll upgrade to Ventura whenever the next version is released. Been doing this forever and can't recommend it highly enough.

Post by kossTKR » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

nikeee wrote: post #434

dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

Enjoy it as long as you can. As soon as this kind of hardware is close to becoming commodity, software will get as slow as it is currently on commodity hardware. It's part of Wirth's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_law

Post by magic_hamster » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 4:44 PM UTC

singhrac wrote: post #282

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Things may be great on the high end of Apple's M1/M2 laptops given they actually have enough ram for simple tasks. But those are also insanely expensive. At the low end Apple is actively ripping off users providing computers which can't even edit photos. My father, a long time apple user, decided to get an Apple M1 to replace his old Apple macbook. He bought the M1 8GB model (without consulting me). Turns out that th…

This is kind of a crazy story to me, and likely pointing to other issues. The "4GB just to run the OS" is probably just macOS preemptively caching... and all Macs use swap extensively so using e.g. 10GB of memory actively is totally fine. I've run out of memory before, but only with serious usage (100s of tabs, VSCode, a 100 MB+ pdf open, etc), and even then there was no actual crashes, I was told that I was using to…

Post by dpz » Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 4:44 PM UTC

sem000 wrote: post #62

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I have both a latest generation Thinkpad P1 Gen5 and Macbook Pro 16 inch M1 pro and while it is true that Macbook comes pretty close to being a perfect laptop, I still miss the productivity of a Linux laptop (for backend dev work). From what hardware POV you are correct, I wish though Apple would adopt Carbon Magnesium chasis that thinkpad uses. For same 16inch size, Thinkpad is noticeably lighter. I can happy lug my…

What is your Linux laptop giving you that your MBP doesn’t? And how does it hurt your productivity? Genuinely curious as I don’t see how it can be any different.