Hi, curious to try new version of PHP. Do you know some good tutorial to setup development environment?
If on macOS then Laravel Valet is great - https://laravel.com/docs/9.x/valet
PHP in 2023
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Re: PHP in 2023
#112If you are thinking about building a web application, take a look at Laravel. I not a huge PHP user, but Laravel is always on the top of my list for building web applications. It's the greatest web framework to ever exists, even better than Rails IMHO. The ecosystem around Laravel is really incredible and unlike any other framework. They have libraries for every stage of a web application from taking payments all the…
+1 for laravel as well. I joined a php project for a fresh rebuild in laravel and had mostly .net experience. Laravel was great. The documentation is an almost perfect blend of examples and nitty gritty detail. The documentation is almost engaging if you’re coming from other frameworks. I found myself thinking “wow that’s almost no code, what about this feature or that” and the next section would be the exact topic I…
This is exactly what I told my friends the other day. The writers of the documentation do a terrific job placing themselves in your shoes.
Re: PHP in 2023
#113If you are thinking about building a web application, take a look at Laravel. I not a huge PHP user, but Laravel is always on the top of my list for building web applications. It's the greatest web framework to ever exists, even better than Rails IMHO. The ecosystem around Laravel is really incredible and unlike any other framework. They have libraries for every stage of a web application from taking payments all the…
Looking at the Laravel site, I’m concerned about Laravel’s reliance on an ORM. Not only because ORMs are widely derided, but because I have a legacy MySQL DB and PHP 5 project I want to resurrect. I’m down to rewrite the server, but how do I restore a database full of user data with Laravel?
What I'm doing is recreate everything the Laravel way and worry about importing the data (millions of pictures, videos and comments) later. I figured that once I'm proficient at Laravel that writing some import jobs would be relatively easy.
Re: PHP in 2023
#114If you are thinking about building a web application, take a look at Laravel. I not a huge PHP user, but Laravel is always on the top of my list for building web applications. It's the greatest web framework to ever exists, even better than Rails IMHO. The ecosystem around Laravel is really incredible and unlike any other framework. They have libraries for every stage of a web application from taking payments all the…
I'm rebuilding an old online community / forum in the TALL stack. It's awesome. I do have to do a lot of raw sql query building to keep it performant though.
So do you just not use Laravel’s ORM?
Re: PHP in 2023
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why "locked into"? When choosing JavaScript, you're locked into JavaScript (and Ecma International), when choosing Kotlin, you're locked into Kotlin (and Jetbrains). You're always "locked into" the language and its ecosystem, no matter what you choose. I don't find that to be a real argument.
Speaking of which, how good is .NET on Linux nowadays? I know it was possible for a long time (with the release .NET Core), but heard it was kind of broken/cumbersome on Linux. Maybe now it's easier to just develop an ASP.NET app, host it on Linux and use Posgres/Mysql instead of SQL Server?
Nothing cumbersome about it, on the contrary. Just give it a try!
Re: PHP in 2023
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looking at the Laravel site, I’m concerned about Laravel’s reliance on an ORM. Not only because ORMs are widely derided, but because I have a legacy MySQL DB and PHP 5 project I want to resurrect. I’m down to rewrite the server, but how do I restore a database full of user data with Laravel?
What I'm doing is recreate everything the Laravel way and worry about importing the data (millions of pictures, videos and comments) later. I figured that once I'm proficient at Laravel that writing some import jobs would be relatively easy.
Thanks! That’s happens to be just what I need to do: import pictures and related data.
Re: PHP in 2023
#117If you are thinking about building a web application, take a look at Laravel. I not a huge PHP user, but Laravel is always on the top of my list for building web applications. It's the greatest web framework to ever exists, even better than Rails IMHO. The ecosystem around Laravel is really incredible and unlike any other framework. They have libraries for every stage of a web application from taking payments all the…
Just to offer an alternate opinion for anyone reading -- check out Next.js
How so? Nextjs only offers ssr and routing. Nothing else. Not even close to the full stack functionality you find in a default laravel or rails project.
Re: PHP in 2023
#118PHP was my first language back when I was a teenager in highschool - it all started because I wanted to get some data from users and store it (I just knew basic HTML and CSS back then), when a friend mentioned he used a PHP snippet to send an email from a website. That sounded like magic to me so I bought a book on PHP and my mind was blown by the possibilities. Several websites and years later I had a pretty good un…
Haha we had the exact same experience. My mind was blown by PHP as a teen and I even made decent money in high school making websites - all without ever setting up a local environment.
I didn’t keep doing dev work and had a different career but changed back to development a few years ago (also mostly TS). I’ve also been curious for a while about what it’d feel like to start a new project in Lavarel instead of Next.js or Sveltekit like usual.
Re: PHP in 2023
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm rebuilding an old online community / forum in the TALL stack. It's awesome. I do have to do a lot of raw sql query building to keep it performant though.
So do you just not use Laravel’s ORM?
I do use it, but for some of the more complex queries I use the Raw SQL part of it.
Re: PHP in 2023
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I'm doing is recreate everything the Laravel way and worry about importing the data (millions of pictures, videos and comments) later. I figured that once I'm proficient at Laravel that writing some import jobs would be relatively easy.
Thanks! That’s happens to be just what I need to do: import pictures and related data.
Does your DB have a classic design? You can very easily map an existing DB with a fresh Laravel install, just write a couple Models, their relationships and you're almost set.
I have been working with Laravel on a daily basis since 6 years and have never felt more efficient with code.