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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by autoexec »

chrischen wrote: post #254
assttoasstmgr wrote: post #248

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There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. If you are accusing that person of being biased for Apple then ai am here to tell you that you are definitely being biased again.

> There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them.

They've had their issues there too with irreplaceable batteries (remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVmnvcQnLg), slowing people's older devices to encourage them to buy new ones (I'm aware that apple's got another more "helpful" sounding excuse for that, just as they're aware their actions would drive more upgrades regardless), and using pentalobe screws to make repairing older devices more difficult. They've earned their reputation.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by kitsunesoba »

autoexec wrote: post #291
chrischen wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. If you are accusing that person of being biased for Apple then ai am here to tell you that you are definitely being biased again.

> There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. They've had their issues there too with irreplaceable batteries (remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVmnvcQnLg ), slowing people's older devices to encourage them to buy new ones (I…

> slowing people's older devices to encourage them to buy new ones (I'm aware that apple's got another more "helpful" sounding excuse for that, just as they're aware their actions would drive more upgrades regardless)

There’s definitely a basis in truth for that, though. It’s not just an excuse.

Years ago when I was dead broke and trying to get my foot in the door as a dev, I was using an iPhone 4 with a worn out battery running a version of iOS prior to the throttling being implemented, and it would frequently shut down entirely with even mild spikes in power requirements at 35% battery and under. It actually made cut me off in the middle of a couple of interview calls and nearly made me miss a couple of others. Had the phone throttled itself to prevent power spikes that wouldn’t have happened.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by anticensor »

kotaKat wrote: post #137
Someone wrote: post #49

I wonder whether that prompt still is 100% correct, given that Apple recently put an Apple TV app on the Microsoft Store ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/apple-tv/9mw0zwqfh0m2 )

Which, for some bizarre reason, you can't install on an arm64 Windows 11 computer despite it being able to run x86/x64 software no issue.

Possibly to make you buy an Apple TV, which is Apple's own arm64 computer in the TV form factor.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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EMIRELADERO wrote: post #218
londons_explore wrote: post #172

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> Apple's forced to open its ecosystem I can almost guarantee this won't happen. Apple will do everything possible to stick to the wording of any laws and regulations, while making the actual process as complex as possible. "I'm afraid to pair with an android phone, you need to take your Apple TV into an Apple Store, where they can generate a pairing code, which will then be valid until the next update before requiri…

Won't work in the EU. They have principles-based regulation over there rather than the US's rules-based regulation.

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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by gloosx »

I had to move my old iPhone 7 to trash box and move to something else back in the days. One day it started to ask to my iCloud password every time i wanted to download something. Not just the password, but the password multiple times and security questions, finishing that flow did not make the prompt go away, essentially trapping me inside some kind of never-ending auth loop which was not going away even with full factory reset. The support at the time was not answering any questions, leaving me with generic responses that i need to go thru that flow. Apple is king of bad UX loops and frustrating experiences in software, don't know why they got hardware so right, but the software is magnitudes behind

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Marsymars »

koyote wrote: post #288
davidmurdoch wrote: post #258

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The launcher itself is 80% an advertisement for shows and movies.

Don't other launchers have "featured/things you want might want to watch" sections? What should be shown instead?

> What should be shown instead?

The list of apps that I select to be shown.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Marsymars »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #174
LarryMullins wrote: post #148

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Cameras are doubtlessly vital to some users, but almost entirely superfluous to others. I can count the number of times per year I use the camera on my phone with just my fingers.

I think for in the range of 98% of smartphone users the phone is the least useful feature. In truth they’re often really crap phones and my old flip phone had better all around phone quality and utility. But at this point I feel annoyed when I have to speak to a person. If I were meant to speak to people I wouldn’t have been born an engineer.

> I think for in the range of 98% of smartphone users the phone is the least useful feature.

Part of the reason this number's so high is that if a phone feature is really important to you, you're liable to get a standalone VoIP line and a headset to go with whatever handset you have rather than using a smartphone.

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Post by DuckFeathers »

They are worth 2 trillion. Our only hope was Europe to regulate them but now the corrupt American empire has started a war there so they will no option but to be lenient to the US corporations.

Our best option now is to avoid funding the terrorist economy when possible.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by chrischen »

autoexec wrote: post #291
chrischen wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. If you are accusing that person of being biased for Apple then ai am here to tell you that you are definitely being biased again.

> There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. They've had their issues there too with irreplaceable batteries (remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVmnvcQnLg ), slowing people's older devices to encourage them to buy new ones (I…

It's not a helpful sounding excuse. The media blew up that narrative because people felt their phone become slower over time for various reasons, but the reasons your phone would slow down would be a combination of several other factors:

1) Device might get slower due to having more stuff on it (larger indexes, less space, etc) 2) Battery degradation causing throttling of CPU 3) New OS requiring more computing power to run new features making your old phone feel slower.

Saying Apple intentionally slowed down older devices is disingenuous. Yes they did slow down old devices, but only because old devices were more likely to be devices with degraded batteries. What is a fair criticism is that Apple didn't communicate to customers that simply replacing the batteries could fix the issue, or maybe deleting some stuff from your phone.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by willyt »

jelly wrote: post #108

I think the current title is mistaken, the twitter user isn't claiming he can't use the Apple TV, he's just saying the message appears. I encountered the same message when iOS 16 had just released and wasn't available on my iPad yet. It wasn't a blocking message, pressing "OK" was enough to make it go away, and when iPadOS 16 finally came out I was able to clear it. It's bad UX but the Apple TV can still be used as b…

I had this on my MacBook. It kept asking me to accept iCloud terms over and over again. The fix was to sign out of iCloud and sign in again. Try that?
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