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Details: I own a Mac & no other Apple devices. My TV is an LG. I have the Apple streaming service on the TV, purely because they have some pretty good shows (Ted Lasso, Separation, Acapulco). Is there something an Apple TV device would do for me? I'm not seeing it.

We use all of the other Apple services too, and our Apple TV facilitates that. Music, TV, Arcade, Fitness, iCloud Photos.

Just depends on your usage.

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Apple removed support for my wifi receiver one day out of the blue. Apple removed youtube from my appletv one day just out of the blue. So done with them!

What wifi receiver? Why is it up to Apple to support third party hardware?

Youtube? That's not an Apple product. I don't recall the YouTube app ever being removed. What are you referring to?

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You may find other things Apple does user hostile, but they are genuinely pretty good about supporting old devices. I'm pretty sure you can even still sync original iPods on Macs released 20 years later. The iCloud compatibility page linked above shows that it still supports devices released 13 years ago. The latest iOS is compatible with devices from 2017, and regular security updates are released for devices going…

I'm pretty sure you can even still sync original iPods on Macs released 20 years later. Can't say about 20 years, but I synced both of my 17-year-old iPods to my M1 Mac over the weekend.

I can use a dongle chain and run my ancient FireWire MiniDV camcorders right into my M1 Air. Makes modern DV archival so much more painless.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Based on my last two experiences, you can't on Roku - you can't watch Netflix, Hulu, or Disney+. Worse, you need a working payment method with Roku to use the device. Personally, I find that a bit more egregious. EDIT Nevermind this last bit. I didn't see that the top level workaround... doesn't work around the issue.

I am Confused as what you're trying to say. I have Roku express and a TV with built in Roku. Neither requires me to own any weird additional devices to watch Netflix, Disney,prime etc?

It requires an active Roku account (including a valid credit card), which this thread was specifically about - requiring an Apple account to watch Netflix et. al.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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This kind of policy is why I refuse to buy apple. My 14yr old daughter has an iPhone and I cannot administer it as a parent without owning an iPhone or similar device myself. A basic Web UI is all that's needed to access the screen time settings, but nope. It's clearly by design, you're either all in with them, or they dont want you.

> My 14yr old daughter has an iPhone and I cannot administer it as a parent without owning an iPhone or similar device myself.

You can use an MDM solution. JumpCloud Free is free, and Apple Business Essentials is $3/mo.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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For people who want to use phone less (no social media etc, like what I'm doing now HNing at breakfast) Watch alone could replace the phone function (can call, take calls, message) and a couple other devices (map, audio player) completely.

> For people who want to use phone less (no social media etc, like what I'm doing now HNing at breakfast) And that represents a vanishingly small market.

Lol. There is never a market for a nonexistent product. Products shape and create markets, not the other way around.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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For people who want to use phone less (no social media etc, like what I'm doing now HNing at breakfast) Watch alone could replace the phone function (can call, take calls, message) and a couple other devices (map, audio player) completely.

The overwhelming majority of users have been voting with their dollars: they want bigger and bigger smartphone screens. Look at what people do on their phones all day. Most of that makes no sense on a watch screen.

This is funny. I am yet to meet a single person with a max-size iPhone, and I met plenty iphone users in the past 4 years. People with little money can't justify the upgrade, people with money don't need to play silly games or watch TV shows on the go when they have iPads, iMacs and comfort of their home/car/private office. So I don't think screen size matters.

But using watch for everything is not about screen size. It's about eliminating circumstances that perpetuate bad habits. Like yoga and meditation and other self-care this is only on an upwards trend, there is a huge unexplored market where people could literally do all things they used to have multiple devices for just with their watch without being tempted to get dopamine rush in toxic social media everywhere they go, and handling the productive stuff on their tablet or laptop. The only reason it's not explored is bc Apple wants to sell more devices with screens.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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That walks me through doing things on an iPhone I don't own, what am I missing? The familylink.google.com page lets me manage my kids' devices directly on that webpage, which is the feature I would like Apple to have. People have said you can manage it on the kids' device directly by logging in with your AppleId, but that doesn't help me if my kid is out and messages me asking me to allow an app or give her an extra…

You do it on the iOS device you’re trying to set screen time limits on. If you don’t own an iOS device, you’re not going to be setting limitations on an iOS device.

The disconnect in your answers probably come from each other's expectations.

Parent mentions Google family link, whih can be setup and managed from litteraly everywhere. There's an iOS app and a fully functional website, so you can have no other android device than your kids, and still control everything.

Your kid can be visiting their grand parents and ask you to authorize some purchase or extra screen time, you'll be able to do it from your Windows computer.

That's the standard iOS' parental control is compared to.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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I would be more concerned about this if the competition in this space was not so disappointing this far. I think there are good smartwatches in the Android space, but none of them are great, and none of them have challenged the Apple Watch in terms of feature set and quality. And Apple hasn’t sat on its laurels here. They keep making the watch a more desirable device. To me, it seems like they know they can get peopl…

> I would be more concerned about this if the competition in this space was not so disappointing this far. Why does less competition make you less concerned about anti-competitive behavior? Such behavior is never good, but it's self-correcting in a market with lots of choice, and not so in a market where there's only one great option (a judgment for which I have to take your word—a Casio F-91W is the right level of w…

Anti-competitive behavior is absolutely bad, no question, but the problem doesn't come across to me as Apple pushing competitors out of the market. It feels like other Smartwatch makers don't care to match the feature set or don't care to do it as well as Apple. When viewing market from an ecosystem point-of-view, there aren't comparable pairings of Android-phone-with-wearOS-Watch to iPhone-with-Apple-Watch. There are similar pairings: Samsung's watch products with Samsung phones, and the Pixel Watch with a Pixel phone. But are either of those comprehensive in their respective ecosystems?

My point is, nobody seems to be fighting for this market except Apple. I could just be naive here, but it doesn't seem like anyone else cares enough for Apple to be anti-competitive.

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