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chelical wrote: post #198
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

Dealbreaker for Mastodon (that I've seen multiple people mention) is that instance admins can view personal DMs. Yes, employees from major social media companies can view your private messages, but it's more likely there's an audit trail in those cases while Mastodon instances have minimal oversight.

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Post by dmitryminkovsky »

wingworks wrote: post #228
dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter was really pretty solid for what it was, had lots of great accounts and even with the stock UI was pretty operable for me. Even advertising on Twitter was pretty fun. You could reach people all over the world at reasonable cost and get feedback on your product and messaging. Most recently I used Twitter pretty much exclusively for following the war in Ukraine, and it’s been a big loss for me—Telegram is a goo…

tbh, I haven't noticed much change on Twitter. I think for the average user it's BAU.

I meant for me, I should have been clear.

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Post by d4nnyo »

api wrote: post #80
godelski wrote: post #50

I've been thinking about social media a lot lately and how it has changed my life. I'm only in my early 30's, but I think many others my age grew up online and when the internet felt smaller, but in a different way. I made life long friends through these means. But something I've noticed is that as everyone has come online, I have made fewer friends. What I personally miss is the small niche communities. These don't…

The net was a very different place before, say, somewhere between 2010 and 2015. I saw a huge shift then. Everything got monetized, weaponized, optimized for addiction, or drowned in spam. There’s always been bad actors and criminals and trolls online too but in the past decade they have either gotten worse or become more empowered. The golden age of the open Internet was really between about 1996 when it started to…

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Post by snapplebobapple »

tptacek wrote: post #12

I think (and have been saying this a bunch lately) that he's right about ActivityPub and Mastodon, and that "a universal timeline" is actually a really good way to put words to it. I was a Mastodon hater for years, but having used it for the past month or so with an actual community of people (really: the whole community I interacted with on Twitter before), I have to admit it: the ActivityPub people were right about…

Have they fixed conversation threading, or does it not matter vs twitter since twitter's threading is horribly broken as well?

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Post by acdha »

chelical wrote: post #198
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #71

Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

Dealbreaker for Mastodon (that I've seen multiple people mention) is that instance admins can view personal DMs. Yes, employees from major social media companies can view your private messages, but it's more likely there's an audit trail in those cases while Mastodon instances have minimal oversight.

Right now I’d be more worried about Elon Musk giving activists access to Twitter DMs than either of the admins for the Mastodon instances I’m on. What good is an audit trail when the auditor is part of the problem?

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Post by d4nnyo »

claytongulick wrote: post #186
api wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The net was a very different place before, say, somewhere between 2010 and 2015. I saw a huge shift then. Everything got monetized, weaponized, optimized for addiction, or drowned in spam. There’s always been bad actors and criminals and trolls online too but in the past decade they have either gotten worse or become more empowered. The golden age of the open Internet was really between about 1996 when it started to…

I'd add the Burning Man / burner community to this list too. It used to be a wild-west sort of escape from real life, and exploration of the ten principles [1]. Now politics dominate and there's only one right-think. When I brought up some of my concerns about this, I had someone in leadership of one of the largest regional burns tell me "you all had your time with the ten principles stuff. We're in charge now". Sad,…

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Re: The Shit Show

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Post by mjmsmith »

wyclif wrote: post #230
mjmsmith wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have any opinion on it. I was explaining why I think the author used the language he did. Even if I did have an opinion on it, I don't think it's an insight into my politics, any more than simping for Musk would be an insight into yours.

Ehhh. Nobody's "simping for Musk" in this thread. You should just evaluate Twitter on its own merits. Don't worry about the fact that Elon Musk doesn't march lockstep to woke orthodoxy.

And there it is, the inevitable "woke".

Why is this hard to understand without bringing your politics into it?

If you build an app that depends on an API, it really sucks if that API is taken away. But we all know it happens. Even so, most companies care enough about goodwill that they will give some advance notice so that you can prepare for it.

In this case, the API was revoked with absolutely no advance warning for people like TapBots, who have been selling and supporting TweetBot for literally years, and now have to clean up the unexpected mess.

That's why, on their merits, Twitter the company and Musk the owner are complete dicks here.

Can you understand that, or is basic common decency too much woke orthodoxy for you?

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Post by d4nnyo »

Espressosaurus wrote: post #52
rdlw wrote: post #9

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Well yeah, his life's work was destroyed at someone's whim with the flick of a switch. How many people would be gracious? Why should anyone be?

This is what happens when you rely on a service you have no control over. It'll happen now, it'll happen later, but at some point, somebody is going to decide they make more money turning the thing you rely on off.

Right!
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