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Re: The Shit Show

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post #2

End of an era. I like that he sees that ActivityPub should be so much more than Mastodon. "a truly universal timeline" of various things on the internet. For that to happen we can't limit ourselves to just Mastodon, but start building alternative takes. Yes, some aren't viewable on other clients, but that's fine, then they just show a link, but at least you can reply/reblog/like items.

I just hope we walk before we try to run. It feels like Mastodon has been given a colossal opportunity and it feels like it’s being completely squandered. I trust that Space Jerk will give Mastodon a very long opportunity window but the sooner the better. Maybe revolution is a good idea and I’m completely wrong. But I still find Mastodon so frustrating and unreliable that I am just not on social media at all now.

Just curious, what is unreliable for you? My setup is as reliable as Twitter ever was for me (I run my own server). Some things are annoying of course, but I’m a little surprised techy people would find those rough edges so bad they wouldn’t use it.

Re: The Shit Show

#43
post #19

Not sure how it is for others, but for me tapbot Tweetbot is working again since today; is the API back up?

I was able to get an access token, and my timeline loads in Tweetbot, but I can't see mentions or activity, and I can't tweet from it.

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#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently as a baby I learned to run before walking so I want to defend doing it that way. Running is a bit easier than walking, walking is a process of carefully balancing at each step. Running is just falling, but you catch yourself before you hit the ground. As long as you aren’t too concerned with steering, you can easily at least run until you find an obstacle. And then you’ve learned about a new type of obstac…

me typing out a definition for running that dictates that it’s not just stumbling recklessly forward in style, all for an analogy “You’re probably wondering how I got here…”

Haha, fair enough. Hopefully the slightly tongue in cheek nature of my post came through.

I’ve always understood this to be what the expression was about, though. Skipping the first step to jump recklessly and possibly incorrectly to the second.

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#46
If federation was a worthwhile goal (in one's mind) after "the bozo took over Twitter" then it is quite obvious nothing fundamentally has changed such that federation would have been a noble goal as a foil to previous Twitter management. Seriously - if more personal sovereignty is the goal then complaining about Twitter only after new management is admitting that the primary quality you don't like is the new management.

In reality the argument for federation is as I've already said - more personal sovereignty, less centralized, corruptible, overlord control. Twitter is certainly doing much better now than before, and that doesn't mean federated communities online still are not, in principle, superior.

If someone wants to use crypto to do justify sentiment like this, they'd be mocked here, but this is much better? It goes to show that people denouncing different approaches often aren't doing it because those approaches lack coherent justification, but because those approaches are related to aspects of technology some people don't like and don't care to examine.

There are plenty of reasons to lampoon the majority of approaches 'crypto' takes to 'solve' problems - that doesn't mean one shouldn't lampoon carefully and thoughtfully. Likewise, there is reason to justify federated platforms, but a dislike of Elon Musk's politics will not be the true driver.

Re: The Shit Show

#47
post #12

I think (and have been saying this a bunch lately) that he's right about ActivityPub and Mastodon, and that "a universal timeline" is actually a really good way to put words to it. I was a Mastodon hater for years, but having used it for the past month or so with an actual community of people (really: the whole community I interacted with on Twitter before), I have to admit it: the ActivityPub people were right about…

Are there any guides, tools, apps, etc to try out ActivityPub?

Re: The Shit Show

#48
post #2

End of an era. I like that he sees that ActivityPub should be so much more than Mastodon. "a truly universal timeline" of various things on the internet. For that to happen we can't limit ourselves to just Mastodon, but start building alternative takes. Yes, some aren't viewable on other clients, but that's fine, then they just show a link, but at least you can reply/reblog/like items.

I just hope we walk before we try to run. It feels like Mastodon has been given a colossal opportunity and it feels like it’s being completely squandered. I trust that Space Jerk will give Mastodon a very long opportunity window but the sooner the better. Maybe revolution is a good idea and I’m completely wrong. But I still find Mastodon so frustrating and unreliable that I am just not on social media at all now.

How would you un-squander Mastodon?

Re: The Shit Show

#49
post #2

End of an era. I like that he sees that ActivityPub should be so much more than Mastodon. "a truly universal timeline" of various things on the internet. For that to happen we can't limit ourselves to just Mastodon, but start building alternative takes. Yes, some aren't viewable on other clients, but that's fine, then they just show a link, but at least you can reply/reblog/like items.

I just hope we walk before we try to run. It feels like Mastodon has been given a colossal opportunity and it feels like it’s being completely squandered. I trust that Space Jerk will give Mastodon a very long opportunity window but the sooner the better. Maybe revolution is a good idea and I’m completely wrong. But I still find Mastodon so frustrating and unreliable that I am just not on social media at all now.

I feel like it was squandered as well, but I don't blame anyone on that, Mastodon core team employed their second person last month full-time.

When the next wave comes I hope if Mastodon can't get its act together there are commercial offerings that can take the wave, and I'm all for it. Cloudflare is building its own Mastodon API-compatible server, and Medium put its own instance.

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#50
I've been thinking about social media a lot lately and how it has changed my life. I'm only in my early 30's, but I think many others my age grew up online and when the internet felt smaller, but in a different way. I made life long friends through these means. But something I've noticed is that as everyone has come online, I have made fewer friends. What I personally miss is the small niche communities. These don't seem to exist anymore. I made several friends on sites like What.cd and found many artists I would have never come into contact otherwise (even speaking with many). Even friends on sites like Imgur when it was smaller, but never once it grew. The global social media is cool and has aspects that are nice to it (e.g. being able to talk to power), but its same power is its greatest downfall (you can't speak to your audience when your audience is everyone, filled with different priors (how we interpret words), and different willingness to act in good faith).

I see everyone talking about Twitter and how it needs to be replaced. But I want to know how we remake these smaller communities. That's what I miss about the internet. There are clearly size thresholds for these. Finding them is often hard and word of mouth. But what I want to know is how we make these flourish and bring personhood back to the internet. We should have both types of communities. But I don't think methods like Mastadon or Reddit really facilitate this. I think many even have seen this change as HN has grown. There are several people that I recognize their names but as the community has grown we have too seen a change in content, culture, and how we speak to one another. For good or bad. But I do think it is nice to have small communities as well that do develop their own cultures. Maybe I'm just old now though.

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