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It's a metaphor about dealing with loss. How knowing something is coming allows people to cope more effectively. If your interpretation of that metaphor is that he is saying Elon's move is worse than or similar to his mother dying I find that much more distasteful than anything he said.

I understood the metaphor, but I still think it's distasteful to evoke your recently dead mother in a hateful post full of slurs and titled "The Shit Show".

But apparently that's just me.

Re: The Shit Show

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There hasn't been any damage. No one has been hurt. Calm down and stop being overly dramatic. Twitter is not a real place, it's just a social network. Anyone who doesn't like it is free to use other communication tools, or even build their own. And I'm not defending Elon Musk here. I don't care about him one way or another. This isn't an issue that rational, educated people should get agitated about.

"Twitter is not a real place, it's just a social network" The idea that what happens on the internet is unimportant compared to what happens "in real life" hadn't made sense for over a decade now. The internet is real life.

This is so utterly wrong it hurts. The internet is real life the same way that evening news is real life. It’s a self-referential funhouse mirror that’s useful exactly for understanding what people who post on the internet think, and “people who post on the internet” is a tiny, profoundly idiosyncratic group. Conflating their opinions with “real life” is a powerful solvent for rationality, empathy, and mental health.

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I feel for this guy. He worked on a product for 16 years. A lot goes into that and it becomes part of your identity. Then right at a time close to the loss of his mother it gets shutdown, with no warning. I'd be devastated. That said Elon is not doing this to anyone. He is not attacking anyone. He simply made a business decision. This happens all the time. Companies let suppliers go for financial reasons, they let st…

This to me reads like an argument that we should nuke capitalism. (Which I’m not sure is a good ideas, even.) I mean, you are presenting something as inevitable, I just don’t understand why.

No I love capitalism.

It's just that we need to see business as business. You make relationships with people and put your trust and faith in people not in businesses. They're entities that can be bought and sold and exist purely to make a profit. They have their place and offer huge value to society but they are not people.

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I never relied on Twitter's API, since building stuff with it is akin to building your castle on other people's land. You're always going to be a tenant, and the API gatekeepers play landlord and can rugpull you without notice. But I'm looking into Nostr[0] as an alternative, aswell as ActivityPub which seems to be working well these days. Dorsey's Bluesky Social[1] looks promising too, but it's a very late move sinc…

This is not the first time twittet screwed developers. If you're olf enough to remember they did this shit in their early day when they had the real possibility of being social media's message bus. Corporate greed took over and capitalism won / they pulled the plug on developer apis. Up until that point they flourished. Now with new wind in their sails generated by 45 and more recently by the technoking they have forgot the lesson and doing the same mistake. Twitter is nothing without its ecosystem. They are killing the same env they need to survive.

Re: The Shit Show

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I never relied on Twitter's API, since building stuff with it is akin to building your castle on other people's land. You're always going to be a tenant, and the API gatekeepers play landlord and can rugpull you without notice. But I'm looking into Nostr[0] as an alternative, aswell as ActivityPub which seems to be working well these days. Dorsey's Bluesky Social[1] looks promising too, but it's a very late move sinc…

> I never relied on Twitter's API, since building stuff with it is akin to building your castle on other people's land

This is a wise attitude. I can’t imagine any company whose existence is wholly reliant on another single organization not entering into an agreement with the said single organization to protect itself. I feel sorry for them, but damn…you need to protect your product.

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I've been thinking about social media a lot lately and how it has changed my life. I'm only in my early 30's, but I think many others my age grew up online and when the internet felt smaller, but in a different way. I made life long friends through these means. But something I've noticed is that as everyone has come online, I have made fewer friends. What I personally miss is the small niche communities. These don't…

The net was a very different place before, say, somewhere between 2010 and 2015. I saw a huge shift then. Everything got monetized, weaponized, optimized for addiction, or drowned in spam. There’s always been bad actors and criminals and trolls online too but in the past decade they have either gotten worse or become more empowered. The golden age of the open Internet was really between about 1996 when it started to…

I'd add the Burning Man / burner community to this list too.

It used to be a wild-west sort of escape from real life, and exploration of the ten principles [1].

Now politics dominate and there's only one right-think. When I brought up some of my concerns about this, I had someone in leadership of one of the largest regional burns tell me "you all had your time with the ten principles stuff. We're in charge now".

Sad, that community really helped me grow into a better person.

[1] https://burningman.org/about/10-principles/

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Sorry to break it to you Elon but you really did spend $44 billion on the next MySpace. There's nothing you can do about it now. All we ask is that you please stop trashing your Tesla brand. Oh!!! and by the way recommend to the BOD to make Tom Zhu CEO of Tesla. You can stay at Twitter.

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Well-written and touching post. To switch off this API used by so many long-time users on the same day "For You" appears as the default option on Twitter triggers me. The "For You" timeline is only for Elon: it will drive engagement, extremism, and all the things social networks have been accused of driving for years now in order to make more $. Some folks here have been comparing the crypto/Web3 and ActivityPub craz…

> the UX needs to vastly improve

Which client?

Elk (https://elk.zone) seems pretty good to me, though I'm not particularly fussy about UX in this particular case (I only check social media a couple of times a week). But there's quite a range of clients to choose between.

Re: The Shit Show

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I think he reached peak ad hominem: "a prick" "Space Karen" "King Shithead" "shitty person" "arrogant bastard" "billionaire bozo" "a clown"

It's admirable elegant variation. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elegant_variation

Ah, much thanks for this. The concept has been with me for what seems like forever, but I'd never come across the term.

Re: The Shit Show

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> Space Karen > billionaire bozo > comparisons to his Mother's death Yeah, I had a hard time getting through it. At least, I don't get the point the author is trying to make. Is this really a surprise given the direction social data has gone in the past decade or so? APIs will only remain public as long as they are useful. Elon sees an upside to making the API at twitter more private, in order to maintain control ove…

Same thoughts. Someone's got to get emotions under control

Why? I loved reading something that was heartfelt and unfiltered. Does everything have to be sanitized to that it doesn't offend anyone's sensibilities? Because I find that offensive.

Being coarse on purpose to express yourself is perfect valid. It's not like he's being asked to critique Schopenhauer and his reply is "Fuck that shit." He's responding to having years of work rendered moot for no apparent reason beyond one man's preference.

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